Democratic Primaries

MineralMan

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38. And the next time I point out a stumbling block Bernie Sanders

Sat Mar 23, 2019, 11:45 AM

Mar 2019

has put in front of himself, your commendation will end abruptly, I predict.

I have just two goals - to get a Democrat elected to the White House and to regain a majority in the Senate. I don't much care which Democrats win either. If I criticize a primary candidate, it is because I think that candidate is doing something that hurts his or her chances to win next November.

I've dismissed a number of current candidates already, and am focused only on those who have some reasonable chance at the nomination. You will find me discussing any flaws in any of them that is material to their electability. Nobody is immune, frankly, from criticism when they do stupid things or make stupid choices.

Come November, 2020, I will be voting for the nominee with the (D) following that nominee's name, as always. Until then, if a candidate looks to me like someone who will lose in November, that candidate will not have my support. Nothing else matters to me in presidential elections. Nothing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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One Thing is Clear: Leading Democratic Primary Candidate Are Getting Looked At [View all] MineralMan Mar 2019 OP

More like just ONE democratic candidate... gee, guess who? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #1

Actually, no. The moment Joe Biden announces, we will MineralMan Mar 2019 #2

So, why's Bernie bein bashed incessantly for EVERYTHING he's done, while other candidates are not? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #3

Because he's running for President. And it's not "bashing." MineralMan Mar 2019 #4

OK, so long as we're usin the SAME standard for ALL candidates... fine, that's reasonable. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #7

He's not being "incessantly bashed" for things he's done, he's being vetted and criticized... George II Mar 2019 #11

No, I won't complain about anything that is true. MineralMan Mar 2019 #12

Fair enough MM... I respect that. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #8

Two major things, not "bashing" but questioning the reasons behind: George II Mar 2019 #5

He just hired two senior staffers who voted for Jill Stein and constantly attacked Democrats dalton99a Mar 2019 #6

None of the other candidates would or Hortensis Mar 2019 #59

haven't you heard what Bidens been going thru lately?.. samnsara Mar 2019 #36

Oh, okay, so it's just that there are more things to focus on when it comes to Bernie. Now I see!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #40

Bernie is crusty and combative by nature marylandblue Mar 2019 #52

"Crusty and combative"... wow, that's a new one!! THAT splains it... VERY creative!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #56

If you think that's bashing, it isn't. marylandblue Mar 2019 #60

Okay, I see what you're saying... all the best. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #61

You're being polite - lol. patricia92243 Mar 2019 #65

I don't bash the candidates. marylandblue Mar 2019 #66

Anita Hill hearing AND making student loan debt continue after going bankrupt bobbieinok Mar 2019 #50

Old news. Not an election killer. MineralMan Mar 2019 #51

For women after Kav hearing? And people with massive student loan debt? bobbieinok Mar 2019 #53

We'll see. Once he declares his candidacy. MineralMan Mar 2019 #55

I don't think age is a factor when it comes to Joe Biden. Like Bernie, he still's gotta lotta energy InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #62

I look forward to hearing Joe's explanation for all that. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #57

When Joe announces, there will be lengthy articles on the front page dalton99a Mar 2019 #9

That's great... vetting is good I thought!! Or, does that only apply to Bernie?! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #10

Wait until people find out how one of our candidates from Texas got his first congressional seat. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #13

Oh, all dirt will get shaken out of the primary rug, no doubt. MineralMan Mar 2019 #16

They started "vetting" (i.e., bashing) O'Rourke starting the day he made his formal announcement.... George II Mar 2019 #22

Yes. I noticed that. It's expected. MineralMan Mar 2019 #24

Yes, and more: George II Mar 2019 #26

And don't forget that "nasty woman boss" Klobuchar dalton99a Mar 2019 #27

That's hilarious. Amy Klobuchar clearly has no chance MineralMan Mar 2019 #29

No, I think Mineral Man made it clear that it IS vetting. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #28

Yes, it is "vetting." And this is the time to do it. MineralMan Mar 2019 #31

To the contrary MM... I'm AGREEING with you!! I even commend you for your position on vetting. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #32

And the next time I point out a stumbling block Bernie Sanders MineralMan Mar 2019 #38

Yes, that's EXACTLY why I can't support Biden in the PRIMARY... but, I would NEVER InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #42

Amen to that. dalton99a Mar 2019 #44

They started before O'Rourke made his official announcement because . . . peggysue2 Mar 2019 #46

If that's fear other people must be in absolute terror since they never stopped "vetting" Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #48

Nope. George II Mar 2019 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #20

That "wealthy white dude" you're referring to has a net worth of about $450,000. That's about.... George II Mar 2019 #21

The figure is $9 million. Most of it gifted from mom in the form of real estate. A shopping center. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #45

Well said!! Bernie too will have somethin to say about social security and the 1%ers, just a feelin. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #63

Wait a minute HBS... are you saying we should use the same standards that have been applied to AOC?! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #23

I take the view the media will do all they can to discredit each and every democratic candidate beachbum bob Mar 2019 #14

"The Media?" Which media? MineralMan Mar 2019 #15

the broad media, take what happen to Howard Dean and multiply by 100x beachbum bob Mar 2019 #17

"The Broad Media?" Again, you have named something you MineralMan Mar 2019 #18

all cable news, all newspapers and magazine...thats the broad media and they are no friends of ours beachbum bob Mar 2019 #19

yep. shanny Mar 2019 #43

Candidates will be vetted and then the GOP will twist facts and the real bashing will begin. patricia92243 Mar 2019 #25

Well, after the convention, the Republicans are bound to go after MineralMan Mar 2019 #33

I agree and hope this time the DU rules will prohibit it from happening. patricia92243 Mar 2019 #35

DU doesn't matter, really. MineralMan Mar 2019 #39

Again, you're right... why it's not worth getting too worked up over anything that's said here. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #64

x1000! peggysue2 Mar 2019 #47

Mayor Pete's the bomb, good luck goin after him if he's our nominee;he'll take em apart limb by limb InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #37

I am supporting Buttigieg in large part because of his media savvy. marylandblue Mar 2019 #58

Good. the cream rises. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #34

Well at least, at this point, we're keeping the Republicans confused. Firestorm49 Mar 2019 #41

They are looking at each other and the Kremlin is looking at the ones they fear the most. McCamy Taylor Mar 2019 #54

Same for Bernie Sanders #Justsayin' Cha Mar 2019 #67