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Gothmog

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61. Nader was Rove's puppet
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 11:47 AM
Dec 2019

I will never forgive nader Rove funded Nader in 2000 and 2004 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-zuesse/ralph-nader-was-indispens_b_4235065.html


Furthermore, Karl Rove and the Republican Party knew this, and so they nurtured and crucially assisted Nader’s campaigns, both in 2000 and in 2004. On 27 October 2000, the AP’s Laura Meckler headlined “GOP Group To Air Pro-Nader TV Ads.” She opened: “Hoping to boost Ralph Nader in states where he is threatening to hurt Al Gore, a Republican group is launching TV ads featuring Nader attacking the vice president [Mr. Gore]. ... ‘Al Gore is suffering from election year delusion if he thinks his record on the environment is anything to be proud of,’ Nader says [in the commercial]. An announcer interjects: ‘What’s Al Gore’s real record?’ Nader says: ‘Eight years of principles betrayed and promises broken.’” Meckler’s report continued: “A spokeswoman for the Green Party nominee said that his campaign had no control over what other organizations do with Nader’s speeches.” Bush’s people - the group sponsoring this particular ad happened to be the Republican Leadership Council - knew exactly what they were doing, even though the liberal suckers who voted so carelessly for Ralph Nader obviously did not. Anyone who drives a car the way those liberal fools voted, faces charges of criminal negligence, at the very least. But this time, the entire nation crashed as a result; not merely a single car.....

On July 9th, the San Francisco Chronicle headlined “GOP Doners Funding Nader: Bush Supporters Give Independent’s Bid a Financial Lift,” and reported that the Nader campaign “has received a recent windfall of contributions from deep-pocketed Republicans with a history of big contributions to the party,” according to “an analysis of federal records.” Perhaps these contributors were Ambassador Egan’s other friends. Mr. Egan’s wife was now listed among the Nader contributors. Another listed was “Nijad Fares, a Houston businessman, who donated $200,000 to the Bush inaugural committee and who donated $2,000 each to the Nader effort and the Bush campaign this year.” Furthermore, Ari Berman reported 7 October 2004 at the Nation, under “Swift Boat Veterans for Nader,” that some major right-wing funders of a Republican smear campaign against Senator John Kerry’s Vietnam service contributed also $13,500 to the Nader campaign, and that “the Republican Party of Michigan gathered ninety percent of Nader’s signatures in their state” (90%!) to place Nader on the ballot so Bush could win that swing state’s 17 electoral votes. Clearly, the word had gone out to Bush’s big contributors: Help Ralphie boy! In fact, on 15 September 2005, John DiStaso of the Manchester Union-Leader, reported that, “A year ago, as the Presidential general election campaign raged in battleground state New Hampshire, consumer advocate Ralph Nader found his way onto the ballot, with the help of veteran Republican strategist David Carney and the Carney-owned Norway Hill Associates consulting firm.”

It was obvious, based upon the 2000 election results, that a dollar contributed to Nader in the 2004 contest would probably be a more effective way to achieve a Bush win against Kerry in the U.S. Presidential election than were perhaps even ten dollars contributed to Bush. This was a way of peeling crucial votes off from Bush’s real opponent - votes that otherwise would have gone to the Democrat. That’s why the smartest Republican money in the 2004 Presidential election was actually going to Nader, even more so than to Bush himself: these indirect Bush contributions provided by far the biggest bang for the right-wing buck.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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I noticed that. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #1
Nader called Obama a war criminal and called for his impeachment. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #2
I remember him calling Obama an Uncle Tom sweetloukillbot Dec 2019 #4
That's horrible. I've never heard about that question everything Dec 2019 #14
Worst I had a Nader-ite friend defend him sweetloukillbot Dec 2019 #31
The farther left, the more like the far right. Hortensis Dec 2019 #48
Traded weed for guns, next thing he was defending the n word sweetloukillbot Dec 2019 #53
Oh, dear. And Mussolini was analogous to our LW populist- Hortensis Dec 2019 #54
Of course it was on Fox OnlinePoker Dec 2019 #35
holy shit. I'd never seen that before tishaLA Dec 2019 #65
1973 Nader was spot on. 25 years later he was getting weird. blm Dec 2019 #16
Nader has been taking shots at Biden for months. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #23
Agree that he's a douche now, but, in 73 he was spot on. blm Dec 2019 #25
Why can't he just keep quiet? question everything Dec 2019 #43
He ran on the Green ticket against Al Gore! LisaM Dec 2019 #27
Studies and interviews show that many are the very same people Hortensis Dec 2019 #49
I hope that the ones who threaten to hold their votes will read "Supreme Ambition" question everything Dec 2019 #56
I want to read it. But it's not ignorance that causes Hortensis Dec 2019 #58
As a Biden defender told me when I complained about a hit job on Bernie by a twitter troll Autumn Dec 2019 #3
Sourced from Ralphie. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #10
Was the piece a lie? Because from what I remember it seemed to be legit and verifiable. Autumn Dec 2019 #41
I Think You POsted The Relevant Word Me. Dec 2019 #5
"A Biden hit piece sourced by Ralph Nader" crazytown Dec 2019 #6
I think the word "desperate" in your OP explains what's going on. highplainsdem Dec 2019 #7
Sanders supporters are either feeling very desperate, or sirota or cusack called Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #8
"Seems they think they are changing the minds of voters ... they aren't" sheshe2 Dec 2019 #15
"Changed your mind" in a good way, she! Cha Dec 2019 #19
Spamming the board is kind of their thing. Any port in a storm. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #9
Yeah, it's like they have no confidence Cha Dec 2019 #12
+1... SidDithers Dec 2019 #68
Sounds like the Russian bots gearing up doesn't it beachbumbob Dec 2019 #11
Who cares what Ralph Nader thinks about anything? Gothmog Dec 2019 #13
Give Ralph Nader credit for 'Unsafe at Any Speed,' and blame for Gore 2000 Prosper Dec 2019 #20
Yeah, deny the reality of Nader's damn stupid Lies.. Cha Dec 2019 #24
No, "scorpion" personalities are real. Yes, credit for Unsafe Hortensis Dec 2019 #50
Nader was Rove's puppet Gothmog Dec 2019 #61
Never knew this question everything Dec 2019 #64
Going on 20 years of zero shits given from me with regard to what Ralph says. BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #21
I missed the Nader as source part, can you point it out? blm Dec 2019 #17
Here question everything Dec 2019 #18
Nader was doing good in 73. He was explaining how Delaware became blm Dec 2019 #22
Because the story starts by tying both names together question everything Dec 2019 #26
At DU? This article is NOT sourced by Nader. blm Dec 2019 #30
Nader was quoted... sweetloukillbot Dec 2019 #38
A 1973 quote about bank industry in Delaware. blm Dec 2019 #39
It's still a source. Your point? sweetloukillbot Dec 2019 #44
Not a source for the information in article that tracks votes and blm Dec 2019 #45
Apparently you don't know what a source is sweetloukillbot Dec 2019 #46
From 1973. He isn't a source for the info on Biden's record blm Dec 2019 #47
That is fucking weak ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #32
Sourced by Ralph Nader? progressoid Dec 2019 #28
Ah shit they are trying really hard ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #29
"Do the Sanders supporters know something that the rest of us don't?" myohmy2 Dec 2019 #33
Biden is more job-specific qualified and experienced. His ideas make sense and are doable. His pre- emmaverybo Dec 2019 #51
Do you really want to bring up Biden's foreign policy experience? floppyboo Dec 2019 #55
Well, you should prove this. I trust what Joe did under Obama was right to do. I am quite sure emmaverybo Dec 2019 #59
I'm sure he wasn't acting independantly. floppyboo Dec 2019 #60
Actually, it does not come up. What comes up is a) debunked garbage about secret program emmaverybo Dec 2019 #66
There has been 10 hit pieces on Bernie for ever one on biden. Joe941 Dec 2019 #34
At the very least LiberalLovinLug Dec 2019 #37
That's the same allegation I'd make too... LanternWaste Dec 2019 #40
Here are some fun facts Gothmog Dec 2019 #36
Looks like the primary season is settling down for the long haul. MineralMan Dec 2019 #42
Wow! My 24 dollar contributions are working, LOL. Thrilled, Goth. emmaverybo Dec 2019 #52
Post removed Post removed Dec 2019 #57
No, but they sometimes think they do. MineralMan Dec 2019 #62
Maybe they know the whole Nader thing in 2000 isn't true Lordquinton Dec 2019 #63
Nader: "Not a dime's worth of difference" between the 2 parties. MH1 Dec 2019 #67
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