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karynnj

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24. This bothers me because there have been serious efforts to get universal broadband

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 03:56 PM

Dec 2019

going back at least to the early 2000s - and has been in every Democratic platform. Normally, the path used is similar to the way that telecos contributed to a high cost fund to subsidize connecting people who lived in remote places that otherwise would be uneconomic to connect. The argument was that there was a societal good. The same justification exists for creating hot spots in all populated areas. One problem with using this approach is that the FCC has not consistently backed treating internet like telephony.

I have not followed this for years, so don't know if there are any efforts to create legislation to make this happen. I do know that there were (at least in the Obama years) some funding for it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bernie Sanders unveils plan to break up telecom companies and launch universal broadband access [View all] Uncle Joe Dec 2019 OP

Recommended. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #1

Not a chance in hell... Peacetrain Dec 2019 #2

Is it right to do so? Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #3

so you are against this proposal? Voltaire2 Dec 2019 #6

K n R ! Thanks for posting! JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #4

So this new "plan" is dependent upon grants from another one of his "plans".... George II Dec 2019 #5

you know everything substantial, any real proposal to do anything significant Voltaire2 Dec 2019 #7

But other candidates don't build one proposal that has to be passed upon another proposal.... George II Dec 2019 #9

This is just being rolled into the GND. Voltaire2 Dec 2019 #11

Irrelevant question, kind of like asking me "when did you stop beating your wife?" George II Dec 2019 #14

An "are you" question is nothing like a question that presumes other facts ("have you stopped") thesquanderer Dec 2019 #15

that's ridiculous. But whatever. Voltaire2 Dec 2019 #27

The issue isn't expanding affordable broadband access, it's the way it will be done.... George II Dec 2019 #29

I didn't mention the proposal at all. Voltaire2 Dec 2019 #30

Yes, but if we elevate the conversation, if we talk about it, if it is on the table, PatrickforO Dec 2019 #16

I'll go with that! PatrickforO Dec 2019 #8

The Feds broke up Ma Bell in the early 1980s, now they've combined again bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #10

Before the deregulation we had the best telecoms in the world Voltaire2 Dec 2019 #12

Really? TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #22

Without the altruism and huge gains from the basic research done by Bell Labs nt karynnj Dec 2019 #20

Once again, a plan without a real, plausible plan. MineralMan Dec 2019 #13

Sanders knows it failed in Burlington Vermont - trashing the town's credit rating for years karynnj Dec 2019 #19

He doesn't care. It's just a campaign promise, after all. MineralMan Dec 2019 #23

This bothers me because there have been serious efforts to get universal broadband karynnj Dec 2019 #24

I know it's in the platform, but it hasn't happened. Any of it will require legislation MineralMan Dec 2019 #25

So none of our candidates should make any proposals that involve this 'legislation' thing? Voltaire2 Dec 2019 #32

They should all be careful not to make proposals that MineralMan Dec 2019 #34

Which according to your previous post appears to be all legislation. Voltaire2 Dec 2019 #35

By the way, the internet as we know it was NOT developed by taxpayer-funded research.... George II Dec 2019 #17

DARPA: ARPANET 1969 Voltaire2 Dec 2019 #28

That wasn't "the internet", that was what "became the internet". These are his exact words: George II Dec 2019 #33

ARPANET was in fact the prototype for the internet. Voltaire2 Dec 2019 #36

His home town, Burlington Vermont did precisely this -- and it nearly destroyed the city financially karynnj Dec 2019 #18

Bernie is my 4th to last choice (with the introduction of Bloomberg). SaschaHM Dec 2019 #21

Does this plan involve waving a magic wand? nt comradebillyboy Dec 2019 #26

Amazing responses here. Everyone in america hates their forking cable company, and rightly so. Voltaire2 Dec 2019 #31

Thats impossible! Until it isn't booley Dec 2019 #37

A big K & R - Chattanooga Has Its Own Broadband Duppers Dec 2019 #38

This would be great. Exciting concept and based on civic justice. JudyM Dec 2019 #39

+1 myohmy2 Dec 2019 #40

"Bernie Sanders unveils plan to boost broadband access, break up internet and cable titans" Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #41