Democratic Primaries

Amishman

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31. Ok, let's promise everyone a pet unicorn if they vote

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 06:47 AM

Dec 2019

If motivating voters is more important than truth and reality.

Sure, we'd love to make the EC disappear. We'd like to change Senator apportionment. But those are a political impossibility in the current state. With our broken government we need to focus on the fixable. No malarkey might sound like a silly phrase, but it's a pretty good concept.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Joe Biden: The Electoral College isn't going away [View all] Eric J in MN Dec 2019 OP

Obviously he's talking about the general election. George II Dec 2019 #1

He's referring to relentless GOP efforts to grab the state in a tight election bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #2

The EC is not going away. OKNancy Dec 2019 #3

That's true. We're stuck with it until that happens The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #7

Right, and I'm seriously concerned about a constitutional convention so elleng Dec 2019 #26

I dont agree with doing away with the electoral college. Once the door is opened...... oldsoftie Dec 2019 #4

Getting rid of the EC and selecting the President the same as we do all other INdemo Dec 2019 #8

It can, if you start changing things based on polls. oldsoftie Dec 2019 #13

Joe has spoken... guess that settles it. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #33

"Opening the door" to getting rid of the EC might mean only a constitutional amendment, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #9

Thats probably true. oldsoftie Dec 2019 #14

zacly elleng Dec 2019 #27

Biden seems to say all the wrong things. Biden is campaigning in the 1970's here in INdemo Dec 2019 #5

Biden is telling the truth. OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #12

Yes, if it depressed voter turnout for the Democratic nominee. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #18

If someone says.. OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #19

Right. Americans like people who give it to the straight. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #29

It's like when a candidate says he will end gun violence. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #43

If the facts about or system depresses Skidmore Dec 2019 #22

If Democratic turnout is depressed because our nominee tells the truth, then we deserve to lose LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #24

Ok, let's promise everyone a pet unicorn if they vote Amishman Dec 2019 #31

And what leads you to believe his statement can depress turnout? LanternWaste Dec 2019 #49

Just an opinion. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #52

He's campaigning in the real world, not a fantasy land. oldsoftie Dec 2019 #15

The charge that Biden is lost in the 70's always confuses me in that it is but three years ago that emmaverybo Dec 2019 #17

+1000 OKNancy Dec 2019 #21

How is this the "wrong thing"? BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2019 #34

How can Biden have voted to keep the EC when it's in the Constitution? The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #6

It wouldn't surprise me if Biden voted on the question at some point. tritsofme Dec 2019 #25

sheesh, facts are irrelevant? It's what he could have done? getagrip_already Dec 2019 #37

It is true; Senator Bayh proposed amendment in 1979 that failed in the Senate and LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #42

not sure where you found an actual roll call vote, but lets assume he did.... getagrip_already Dec 2019 #44

I didn't actually; it was cited in an article, and I frankly didn't challenge it, because even if LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #58

The Constitution can be amended with votes Eric J in MN Dec 2019 #60

As of 1976 there had been only three elections The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #61

Biden recently spoke about the EC, Eric J in MN Dec 2019 #62

That's true, it would be. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #63

Presidential candidates would spend a lot of time Eric J in MN Dec 2019 #64

The Electoral College is in the Constitution. revmclaren Dec 2019 #10

the bot attacks swinging into full gear at Biden as he has to go down or GOP is smashed in 2020 beachbumbob Dec 2019 #32

If we do away with the EC, Election Day will be a boring long night (or two or three) if it's close Polybius Dec 2019 #11

Whatever it takes. dchill Dec 2019 #28

Who cares about that? jcgoldie Dec 2019 #72

"Because this is how we've always done things" loyalsister Dec 2019 #16

No, it's reality. We go to war with the army we have, not the one we want from the movies..... getagrip_already Dec 2019 #39

White supremacy is okay, then? loyalsister Dec 2019 #48

thats a silly connection..... getagrip_already Dec 2019 #50

A lot has changed loyalsister Dec 2019 #53

actually..... getagrip_already Dec 2019 #55

There simply isn't the public support for getting rid of it. Kaleva Dec 2019 #20

the National populare vote compact SterlingPound Dec 2019 #30

The lack of action shows that there is little public support Kaleva Dec 2019 #35

i find that argment lacks substance in a country that has more non voters than voters SterlingPound Dec 2019 #36

Compare the civil rights movement and Vietnam ant-war movement Kaleva Dec 2019 #56

As of July 2019, it has been adopted by fifteen states and the District of Columbia. SterlingPound Dec 2019 #59

So you are crowing about modifying the EC system. Kaleva Dec 2019 #65

good thing other constitutional experts think that it doesn't take congressional approval SterlingPound Dec 2019 #66

You are putting stuff but still not showing dedicated support for getting rid of the EC Kaleva Dec 2019 #67

"For that, one may need approval of Congress or even a Amendment to the Constitution." SterlingPound Dec 2019 #68

I would agree that it would be more fair if every state adopted the district method Kaleva Dec 2019 #69

that is just the risk we have to take that every once in a while an SterlingPound Dec 2019 #70

I want to thank you for the interesting discussion Kaleva Dec 2019 #73

He is correct if we elect him... Joe941 Dec 2019 #23

It doesn't matter who we elect BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #38

and right now..... getagrip_already Dec 2019 #40

He is correct regardless of the Democrat we elect... LanternWaste Dec 2019 #51

It wasn't a vote to eliminate the Electoral College, but to change it to popular vote by state LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #41

Very simple killaphill Dec 2019 #45

Sure. This is one of the lamest attacks on him yet, IMO LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #46

He's right. It's not going away. MineralMan Dec 2019 #47

It can go away but it will take leadership. nt delisen Dec 2019 #54

Ec is made up of rich unelected people I_UndergroundPanther Dec 2019 #57

No se puede! jcgoldie Dec 2019 #71