Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Why Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren Will Win the Presidency with Robert Reich [View all]PufPuf23
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attend school concurrently and/or go to school after work experience.
The student that does high school and then goes straight to a 4 year school, particularly oops meant to type private not public universities, is the exception.
I have two degrees from Cal (where Reich is an academic), 1970s and 1980s. Started the BS age 21 when I was already a career Fed in a technical job series and I needed a degree to be a professional. I was able to work 20-28 hours a week on detail from my regular Fed job in a Fed research lab then in Berkeley. The last two years I was also the caretaker on a wealthy person 2nd home in Piedmont.
Quit Fed service in mid 30s for a Cal Haas MBA. Started work as a TA and part time work for a SF real estate firm almost immediately. Before the year was up I was doing consulting as well as coursework and had more income than I had as a GS 11 Fed; the consulting work birthed my Applied Management Project and I went direct from Cal to a prominent management consulting company (who had also consulted the client that used my skills). Cal was relatively cheap compared to current costs but I assume that the "free" school touted by pols would be to bring all public universities to the opportunity once provided by the University of California system. The only student loan I took out was as a grad student to purchase my first pc along with a printer, WordPerfect, Lotus 123, and Debase.
The Cal MBA program then required at least 3 years experience between bachelors and entering the MBA program.
What I observe is that the student loan program is abused but more by shady schools that survive financially by luring students with student loans, where the students ring up astronomical student loan debts, too often without getting a degree much less work (which is fine by me as the goal of education is far more than a job and $$). The students themselves are victims in having large loan debt from over-priced education that can't be or is life crippling to repay. Thanks to the assistance of Joe Biden student loan debts cannot be dismissed in bankruptcy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided