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betsuni

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33. Here are some things that brought us to where we are now.
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 08:23 PM
Dec 2019

Going through old books, just read this in Robert Hughes' "The Culture of Complaint" (1993):

"Why do so many of the citizens of the world's oldest democracy not vote when they can ... ? Partly, it's an administrative problem -- the disappearance of the old party machine and ward system, whose last vestige was Chicago under Mayor Daley. Whatever its abuses, it got people street by street, household by household, to the ballot boxes. Its patronage system did help tie American people, especially blue-collar and lower middle class ones, to the belief that they as citizens had some role to play in the running of their country from the bottom up, ward by ward. It reinforced the sense of participatory democracy. Without it, the poor stopped voting because they believed that nobody in Washington did or could represent them. The less the poor vote, the more the party of the rich will benefit. This produced a vicious spiral, and American electoral techniques reshaped themselves to bypass the lower third of the society, except when it could be selectively stirred by threats of joblessness or veiled appeals to working-class racism.

"By the late 70s the American citizen was becoming a passive spectator at political events handed down in snippets between commercials. American network television is mostly junk designed to produce reality-shortage ... . No wonder that the act of pulling the lever every four years seemed to mean less, and that fewer people went to the booth to do it. ... In the 80s, as never before in America, we saw statecraft fuse with image-management. Too many things in this supposedly open republic got done out of sight of the citizens. Or they were presented in terms that mocked public intelligence by their brevity and cartoon-like simplicity. This was known as 'Letting Reagan be Reagan.' ... The strategy was to go for deep reflexes with trigger-words, to appeal to prejudice rather than reason or self-interest. The GOP's platform left nothing in the middle ground; it was raw anxious bigotry, aimed to separate Americans into 'us' and 'them.'"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Just an FYI here [View all] tiredtoo Dec 2019 OP
What is the status quo, exactly, and how did it bring us to whatever this is? The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #1
They're a boogie band from England and appeared on Top Of The Pops more than any other band. Scurrilous Dec 2019 #8
Lmao!! Docreed2003 Dec 2019 #29
FINALLY we find out what the hell status quo is. A band! betsuni Dec 2019 #30
going to try to be brief here but it is a big topic tiredtoo Dec 2019 #35
No; outsiders derailing our process is what brought us to where we are now LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #2
Exactly, and the cries of "rigged" systems are eerily R B Garr Dec 2019 #19
This. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #26
Hi she! R B Garr Dec 2019 #37
Hey R B sheshe2 Dec 2019 #38
Good to see you, too, she! As always. R B Garr Dec 2019 #40
Love ya back sweetie. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #41
You are correct. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #28
Absolutely Sherman A1 Dec 2019 #3
A foreign government cultivating an American mobster for a decade and then installing him as potus onecaliberal Dec 2019 #4
trumps too stupid to be a mobster..hes a useful idiot..to everyone... samnsara Dec 2019 #6
Let me guess awesomerwb1 Dec 2019 #5
Nailed it! sheshe2 Dec 2019 #27
Sounds like you have no idea Cha Dec 2019 #7
That is my interpretation. TidalWave46 Dec 2019 #15
Bingo Cha! R B Garr Dec 2019 #20
after Trump, it's not surprising RussBLib Dec 2019 #32
Citizen's United got us here. Baitball Blogger Dec 2019 #9
More than 2 centuries of success OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #10
Have thought about. I think so-called "progressives" -- who criticized Obama and Clinton Hoyt Dec 2019 #11
The status quo, for all its faults, normally Hortensis Dec 2019 #12
You've covered both the front *and* the back of the t-shirt with that one. LanternWaste Dec 2019 #13
What status quo? Such a general comment you have made. TidalWave46 Dec 2019 #14
Here are some facts about the democratic electorate that some just can't abide Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #17
Trump brought us where we are today...and we need to get elected period...Biden can win...we lose Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #18
Say...Thanks for the Heads Up! MineralMan Dec 2019 #21
People who didn't vote brought us here The Mouth Dec 2019 #22
The "status quo" has a higher likelihood of not losing in 2020. Think about it. brooklynite Dec 2019 #23
There is no history past 2016. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2019 #24
"Ancient astronaut theorists say" PDittie Dec 2019 #25
Populism got us to where we are today. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #31
Here are some things that brought us to where we are now. betsuni Dec 2019 #33
actually letting repub voting machine companies count our votes is what got us here questionseverything Dec 2019 #34
"It's not who votes that counts The Mouth Dec 2019 #42
yep n/t questionseverything Dec 2019 #46
Status quo is simply a talking point PhoenixDem Dec 2019 #36
I've thought about it... myohmy2 Dec 2019 #39
How about a bit more substance to this post? Drunken Irishman Dec 2019 #43
I gave a little more substance to this post in reply to the first reply i got. EOM tiredtoo Dec 2019 #45
Unless it mentions a backslash to electing a black man, you're wrong. Drunken Irishman Dec 2019 #47
+1 betsuni Dec 2019 #48
The left left Greens brought us here...first with Bush in 2000 and Kerry in 2004... Bush gave Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #44
+1 LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #49
Nothing so simplistic produces such results. Amimnoch Dec 2019 #50
I know, but the regression from the mean is janterry Dec 2019 #51
That mantra took a big hit last night in the UK BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #52
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #53
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