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In reply to the discussion: American Leftists Believed Corbyn's Inevitable Victory Would Be Their Model [View all]Gothmog
(182,946 posts)97. Blowback from U.K. election burns Warren, Sanders
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Its a lesson for all Democrats who are eager to replace Trump, said former Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel. There was no skimping on the progressive agenda and it was the worst performance in two decades. Its not just economics. You have to have a candidate and a message thats close to the zeitgeist of the moment not just a grab bag of giveaways.
The thoroughness of Corbyns thrashing revived the longstanding debate within the party over just how ambitious the Democratic agenda should be, and provided fresh ammunition for the arguments of moderates who contend that if the party backs Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren, the primarys leading progressives, theyll lose the Rust Belt and perhaps even elsewhere.....
"Corbyn was basically a satellite project for Bernie world. If there is one lesson to be gleaned from the devastating loss across the pond, it's that we need more than just soaring rhetoric backed up by bravado of organizing, said Murshed Zaheed, a Megaphone Strategies partner and former Harry Reid aide backing Warren. We need to have leaders who have crystal-clear analysis of how to solve problems and leverage power to achieve those solutions. Corbyn never appeared to be a candidate with any sound plans on how to move U.K. forward.
Before the polls closed on Thursday, Sanders national organizing director, Claire Sandberg, had tweeted that the Bernie team says #VoteLabour with a picture attached of campaign staff. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a top congressional ally who has campaigned with Sanders in Iowa, also tweeted in support of Labour. Two 2016 aides to Sanders, Becky Bond and Zack Malitz, had traveled to London earlier this year to help the pro-Corbyn group Momentum as well.
The thoroughness of Corbyns thrashing revived the longstanding debate within the party over just how ambitious the Democratic agenda should be, and provided fresh ammunition for the arguments of moderates who contend that if the party backs Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren, the primarys leading progressives, theyll lose the Rust Belt and perhaps even elsewhere.....
"Corbyn was basically a satellite project for Bernie world. If there is one lesson to be gleaned from the devastating loss across the pond, it's that we need more than just soaring rhetoric backed up by bravado of organizing, said Murshed Zaheed, a Megaphone Strategies partner and former Harry Reid aide backing Warren. We need to have leaders who have crystal-clear analysis of how to solve problems and leverage power to achieve those solutions. Corbyn never appeared to be a candidate with any sound plans on how to move U.K. forward.
Before the polls closed on Thursday, Sanders national organizing director, Claire Sandberg, had tweeted that the Bernie team says #VoteLabour with a picture attached of campaign staff. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a top congressional ally who has campaigned with Sanders in Iowa, also tweeted in support of Labour. Two 2016 aides to Sanders, Becky Bond and Zack Malitz, had traveled to London earlier this year to help the pro-Corbyn group Momentum as well.
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American Leftists Believed Corbyn's Inevitable Victory Would Be Their Model [View all]
brooklynite
Dec 2019
OP
The Labour Party's indecisiveness on Brexit had a lot to do with it as well.
Crowman2009
Dec 2019
#1
A big part of the problem was Cornyn proactively deciding to focus on the Left's economic issues...
brooklynite
Dec 2019
#9
Corbyn was not likable or inspiring. And perceived by some as anti Semitic and anti Muslim
kimbutgar
Dec 2019
#5
Bernie's position on Palestine is nuanced and correct. It is not anti-Semitic,
Blue_true
Dec 2019
#87
So your position is that when a candidate loses, it was a mistake to run that candidate?
Cuthbert Allgood
Dec 2019
#46
It was a mistake to run the candidate when his weakness was obvious months in advance
brooklynite
Dec 2019
#81
He didn't just lose...it was the worst defeat since what the 30's so yeah safe to say they should
Demsrule86
Dec 2019
#90
For me the basic factor in the recent U.K. election is that the process was NOT fair or secure.
abqtommy
Dec 2019
#8
I had a text comment from a Brit in a DU op but no evidence that would satisfy a reTHUG.
abqtommy
Dec 2019
#16
Labour had a whole anti semitism scandal that pretty much destroyed their chances in the last weeks.
Tiggeroshii
Dec 2019
#28
Ummm, I have a fundamental problem with "America doesn't do revolution"
Cuthbert Allgood
Dec 2019
#47
Have you read about that time period? There was nothing easy and gradual about it.
Cuthbert Allgood
Dec 2019
#66
Um, there have been huge violent labor riots and strikes since colonial times
geardaddy
Dec 2019
#74
Well, since you refuse to define what you think a revolution is, I think this "discussion" is done.
progressoid
Dec 2019
#84
No worries; that's only a problem if people are being deliberately obtuse
LongtimeAZDem
Dec 2019
#41
"We are involved now in a serious revolution. This nation is still a place of cheap political...
progressoid
Dec 2019
#70
Most of Corbyn's proposals were mainstream progressive. I don't think it's to anyone's
totodeinhere
Dec 2019
#65
Good point. But as a progressive myself I guess I tend to defend politicians on the left.
totodeinhere
Dec 2019
#85
Many countries have nationalized industries, Norway's Oil industry comes to mind...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2019
#88
If American leftists really believed that Corbyn's victory was inevitable then I want
totodeinhere
Dec 2019
#62
BUT, it reflects ignoring the issue voters cared about in favor of the candidate's issues
brooklynite
Dec 2019
#69
I don't know any leftist that thought that. It's clearly propaganda to push fascism
rockfordfile
Dec 2019
#100