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In reply to the discussion: American Leftists Believed Corbyn's Inevitable Victory Would Be Their Model [View all]Gothmog
(182,677 posts)98. Washington Post-Britain's Jeremy Corbyn: I got my ideas from Bernie Sanders
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The leader of Britains Labour Party credited U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) with some of his social democratic campaign planks, telling the writer Naomi Klein that he embraced comparisons with the Vermont senator.
Bernie called me the day after our election here, Jeremy Corbyn said in an interview published Thursday by the Intercept. I was half-asleep watching something on television. And Bernie comes on to say, well done on the campaign, and I was interested in your campaigning ideas. Where did you get them from? And I said, well, you, actually.
Corbyn, who won the leadership of the Labour Party in 2015 and held it after a 2016 challenge, has frequently been cited by Sanders as an example of how left politics can win. This year, a snap election that began with predictions about Corbyn driving Labour into the wilderness ended with a series of surprise gains, and Prime Minister Theresa May clinging to power in a controversial deal with Northern Irelands Democratic Unionist Party. According to a post-election analysis by Ipsos Mori, over half of eligible British voters under age 30 turned out double the youth turnout rate in some American elections. That led to surprising Labour gains in cities with large universities, with student turnout overturning large Conservative majorities.
Theres a lesson to be learned from what Corbyn did in the U.K., said Sanders in a recent interview with The Washington Post. The remarkable thing about his election and he did better than I did was that among younger people, the voter turnout was as high as it was among the general population. That was unprecedented.
Bernie called me the day after our election here, Jeremy Corbyn said in an interview published Thursday by the Intercept. I was half-asleep watching something on television. And Bernie comes on to say, well done on the campaign, and I was interested in your campaigning ideas. Where did you get them from? And I said, well, you, actually.
Corbyn, who won the leadership of the Labour Party in 2015 and held it after a 2016 challenge, has frequently been cited by Sanders as an example of how left politics can win. This year, a snap election that began with predictions about Corbyn driving Labour into the wilderness ended with a series of surprise gains, and Prime Minister Theresa May clinging to power in a controversial deal with Northern Irelands Democratic Unionist Party. According to a post-election analysis by Ipsos Mori, over half of eligible British voters under age 30 turned out double the youth turnout rate in some American elections. That led to surprising Labour gains in cities with large universities, with student turnout overturning large Conservative majorities.
Theres a lesson to be learned from what Corbyn did in the U.K., said Sanders in a recent interview with The Washington Post. The remarkable thing about his election and he did better than I did was that among younger people, the voter turnout was as high as it was among the general population. That was unprecedented.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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American Leftists Believed Corbyn's Inevitable Victory Would Be Their Model [View all]
brooklynite
Dec 2019
OP
The Labour Party's indecisiveness on Brexit had a lot to do with it as well.
Crowman2009
Dec 2019
#1
A big part of the problem was Cornyn proactively deciding to focus on the Left's economic issues...
brooklynite
Dec 2019
#9
Corbyn was not likable or inspiring. And perceived by some as anti Semitic and anti Muslim
kimbutgar
Dec 2019
#5
Bernie's position on Palestine is nuanced and correct. It is not anti-Semitic,
Blue_true
Dec 2019
#87
So your position is that when a candidate loses, it was a mistake to run that candidate?
Cuthbert Allgood
Dec 2019
#46
It was a mistake to run the candidate when his weakness was obvious months in advance
brooklynite
Dec 2019
#81
He didn't just lose...it was the worst defeat since what the 30's so yeah safe to say they should
Demsrule86
Dec 2019
#90
For me the basic factor in the recent U.K. election is that the process was NOT fair or secure.
abqtommy
Dec 2019
#8
I had a text comment from a Brit in a DU op but no evidence that would satisfy a reTHUG.
abqtommy
Dec 2019
#16
Labour had a whole anti semitism scandal that pretty much destroyed their chances in the last weeks.
Tiggeroshii
Dec 2019
#28
Ummm, I have a fundamental problem with "America doesn't do revolution"
Cuthbert Allgood
Dec 2019
#47
Have you read about that time period? There was nothing easy and gradual about it.
Cuthbert Allgood
Dec 2019
#66
Um, there have been huge violent labor riots and strikes since colonial times
geardaddy
Dec 2019
#74
Well, since you refuse to define what you think a revolution is, I think this "discussion" is done.
progressoid
Dec 2019
#84
No worries; that's only a problem if people are being deliberately obtuse
LongtimeAZDem
Dec 2019
#41
"We are involved now in a serious revolution. This nation is still a place of cheap political...
progressoid
Dec 2019
#70
Most of Corbyn's proposals were mainstream progressive. I don't think it's to anyone's
totodeinhere
Dec 2019
#65
Good point. But as a progressive myself I guess I tend to defend politicians on the left.
totodeinhere
Dec 2019
#85
Many countries have nationalized industries, Norway's Oil industry comes to mind...
Humanist_Activist
Dec 2019
#88
If American leftists really believed that Corbyn's victory was inevitable then I want
totodeinhere
Dec 2019
#62
BUT, it reflects ignoring the issue voters cared about in favor of the candidate's issues
brooklynite
Dec 2019
#69
I don't know any leftist that thought that. It's clearly propaganda to push fascism
rockfordfile
Dec 2019
#100