Democratic Primaries

Cuthbert Allgood

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106. How exactly does that address the fact

Reply to Gothmog (Reply #98)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 10:58 AM

Dec 2019

that Sullivan is a right-wing turd and his advice about what the Democratic Party should do is worth nothing?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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American Leftists Believed Corbyn's Inevitable Victory Would Be Their Model [View all] brooklynite Dec 2019 OP

The Labour Party's indecisiveness on Brexit had a lot to do with it as well. Crowman2009 Dec 2019 #1

A big part of the problem was Cornyn proactively deciding to focus on the Left's economic issues... brooklynite Dec 2019 #9

maybe its a good message delivered by the wrong messenger nt msongs Dec 2019 #2

Leftist excerpts in the article are very scary. So is 'blue wave' theory. empedocles Dec 2019 #3

It's depressing that both the Tory and Labour Party have come to this... First Speaker Dec 2019 #4

Corbyn was not likable or inspiring. And perceived by some as anti Semitic and anti Muslim kimbutgar Dec 2019 #5

I would not have been able to vote Labour bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #78

Corbyn is a horrible comp to Bernie... VarryOn Dec 2019 #6

Sorry. Many people won't vote for Bernie is a primary for exactly most Blue_true Dec 2019 #12

No way he'd ever get my vote, for sure... VarryOn Dec 2019 #14

IDK. His position on Palestine would probably get smeared as anti-Semitic Recursion Dec 2019 #25

Bernie's position on Palestine is nuanced and correct. It is not anti-Semitic, Blue_true Dec 2019 #87

People will reach Recursion Dec 2019 #93

If Corbyn would have won OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #15

Oh yeah. Now it's.. "there's Cha Dec 2019 #20

Isn't this Bernie's campaign? OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #22

Yeah, so what happened?! Wrong guy? Cha Dec 2019 #23

Spot on. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #21

I have been a Corbyn phobe for several years, even before Brexit. Blue_true Dec 2019 #103

To me this speaks to the central problem with populism. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #104

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2019 #29

Thanks for that.. I'm passing it on.. Cha Dec 2019 #31

Ya think! nina turner yesterday.. Cha Dec 2019 #30

Yes, see! OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #32

Or a 1000! Cha Dec 2019 #33

So you're happy that Corbyn lost? Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2019 #44

No way. OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #45

So your position is that when a candidate loses, it was a mistake to run that candidate? Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2019 #46

Apparently so? progressoid Dec 2019 #68

It was a mistake to run the candidate when his weakness was obvious months in advance brooklynite Dec 2019 #81

He didn't just lose...it was the worst defeat since what the 30's so yeah safe to say they should Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #90

I don't think so. rockfordfile Dec 2019 #101

Was there anyone expecting a Corbyn victory in the past year? enough Dec 2019 #7

People who have their head in the sand. Blue_true Dec 2019 #13

Labour managed to lose seats they had held since the 30s... brooklynite Dec 2019 #80

They can be found on Reddit and Twitter. Search for "#youthquake" Recursion Dec 2019 #26

I didn't expect a win, but I was hoping for a hung Parliament. Mike 03 Dec 2019 #53

Not me. LenaBaby61 Dec 2019 #59

I don't think anyone who was paying attention was expecting a Corbyn victory. Autumn Dec 2019 #108

For me the basic factor in the recent U.K. election is that the process was NOT fair or secure. abqtommy Dec 2019 #8

What actual evidence do you have the UK election wasn't "fair or secure"? brooklynite Dec 2019 #10

I had a text comment from a Brit in a DU op but no evidence that would satisfy a reTHUG. abqtommy Dec 2019 #16

Have you actually watched the UK Election tally? brooklynite Dec 2019 #17

I can say with complete confidence that you dware Dec 2019 #19

They literally show the two stacks of paper ballots next to each other Recursion Dec 2019 #27

People who believe that should open their eyes. Blue_true Dec 2019 #11

LOL @ THIS... Cha Dec 2019 #18

Corbyn is toast NYMinute Dec 2019 #24

Labour had a whole anti semitism scandal that pretty much destroyed their chances in the last weeks. Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #28

Moving too far left is a bad idea Gothmog Dec 2019 #34

Andrew Sullivan Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2019 #48

Even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while... comradebillyboy Dec 2019 #57

Or, and stay with me here, it would be silly Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2019 #58

Washington Post-Britain's Jeremy Corbyn: I got my ideas from Bernie Sanders Gothmog Dec 2019 #98

How exactly does that address the fact Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2019 #106

Is thst the same Sullivan that supported W bush? WoonTars Dec 2019 #49

We'd be fools not to ignore the 2018 midterms Awsi Dooger Dec 2019 #94

Blowback from U.K. election burns Warren, Sanders Gothmog Dec 2019 #97

Apples and oranges. Brexit was the issue. Lack of a clear policy by the... WoonTars Dec 2019 #107

Of course. Radical leftists always believe they represent "the people." Hortensis Dec 2019 #35

"Radical Leftists"? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2019 #36

I'd start with people who constantly throw areound the word "revolution" LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #37

Exactly right Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #39

Ummm, I have a fundamental problem with "America doesn't do revolution" Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2019 #47

It doesn't Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #50

The country started with a revolution. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2019 #51

And none since then Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #52

Civil War & Fight for Unions Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2019 #56

Nope Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #60

That was clearly our economic revolution. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2019 #61

No Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #64

Have you read about that time period? There was nothing easy and gradual about it. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2019 #66

Still not revolution Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #72

Define revolution, then. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2019 #76

Martin Luther King wouln't agree. progressoid Dec 2019 #71

What event was he specifically referring to Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #73

Um, there have been huge violent labor riots and strikes since colonial times geardaddy Dec 2019 #74

Still not revolution Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #75

Well, since you refuse to define what you think a revolution is, I think this "discussion" is done. progressoid Dec 2019 #84

Nothing in American history Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #86

And how many would we then have to rule out because of equivocation? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2019 #40

No worries; that's only a problem if people are being deliberately obtuse LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #41

Yeah, THAT's it. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2019 #43

"We are involved now in a serious revolution. This nation is still a place of cheap political... progressoid Dec 2019 #70

I appreciate Sanders precisely because he is not "a radical leftist" Tom Rinaldo Dec 2019 #38

I am not a Bernie fan, but Bernie isn't Corbyn. Happy Hoosier Dec 2019 #42

My analysis (short) Crowman Dec 2019 #54

Most of Corbyn's proposals were mainstream progressive. I don't think it's to anyone's totodeinhere Dec 2019 #65

It's not just about policy though.... Happy Hoosier Dec 2019 #67

Nationalizing industries is not "mainstream progressive" brooklynite Dec 2019 #83

Good point. But as a progressive myself I guess I tend to defend politicians on the left. totodeinhere Dec 2019 #85

Many countries have nationalized industries, Norway's Oil industry comes to mind... Humanist_Activist Dec 2019 #88

Have Senator Warren advocate the same and see how far she gets... brooklynite Dec 2019 #89

Sorry, for a moment I forgot we are talking about the US. Humanist_Activist Dec 2019 #95

I'm so glad I can come on to DU TheRealNorth Dec 2019 #55

If American leftists really believed that Corbyn's victory was inevitable then I want totodeinhere Dec 2019 #62

Nonsense. It was all about Brexit. Odoreida Dec 2019 #63

BUT, it reflects ignoring the issue voters cared about in favor of the candidate's issues brooklynite Dec 2019 #69

Whaaaaaat? Corbyn is awful bluedye33139 Dec 2019 #77

Given 2016 are you sure you want to make this argument? booley Dec 2019 #79

Obama did not run left...he ran as a moderate. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #91

He ran a s a Progressive. People saw him as Progressive booley Dec 2019 #109

Corbyn is a repugnant asshole. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2019 #82

The NYT has some great comments Gothmog Dec 2019 #92

Everyone seems to be happy Johnson won tenderfoot Dec 2019 #96

I dislike Johnson Gothmog Dec 2019 #99

Nonsense.. whathehell Dec 2019 #105

I don't know any leftist that thought that. It's clearly propaganda to push fascism rockfordfile Dec 2019 #100

I don't either, and I agree that its a propaganda effort, whathehell Dec 2019 #102