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torius

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28. I'm an author and also worked on a bestseller list. You don't get royalties from your own purchases.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:10 AM
Dec 2019

When you buy books from a publisher, they are in bulk, in a box. You get a discount. No books bought in a bulk (box) by anyone get you royalties. You then can resell them. That's what authors do--they go to book signings, events and such and sell their books. Even if traditionally published. You can keep the profit or use it for fundraising. There's nothing wrong with buying and reselling your own books--it's the norm and the book contract goes over it. You only get a small amount of free copies, to give your friends and family. You pay for the rest.

They go into your sales but a bestseller list would ignore them or put an asterisk as the NYT Times did. I worked for years on a bestseller list for a large publication. They calculated it by averaging sales across a select list of independent bookstores. If a book sold more than a handful it was assumed to be an event such as a book signing and ignored. A book could be a bestseller averaging just a few copies a week. The NYT seems to go more by overall sales, but gives an asterisk when they don't think they are the kind of sales that indicate people are buying it without being pushed. Buying your own book won't get you on a lot of bestseller lists--I can't say what publications use what type--but either way, they don't want to help authors game the system since that's what a lot authors want to do. Hence, Amazon takes down reviews if they think your friends wrote them. The Times puts an asterisk. And my publication ignored any weekly sales per store that was over a few copies. It's to keep it free of manipulation.



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But Full Transparency...Right? Me. Dec 2019 #1
Old news. This was brought up in the last campaign. vsrazdem Dec 2019 #2
No it wasn't OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #4
A candidate can't get royalties from their campaign purchases. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #8
What is the result of inflated sales? OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #9
Ask Don Jr. nt sheshe2 Dec 2019 #12
How does that negate the facts? And why such quick and drastic jump to judgement? beastie boy Dec 2019 #11
Let's be clear. He didn't become a millionaire from his campaign giving away books. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #19
They get royalties from their publisher for books their campaign purchases..... George II Dec 2019 #20
. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #21
And? He didn't get royalties from his campaign purchasing his own books? Please look up "in kind". George II Dec 2019 #22
I'm an author and also worked on a bestseller list. You don't get royalties from your own purchases. torius Dec 2019 #28
"He" didn't buy his own books, he got a bookseller to buy them and then his campaign... George II Dec 2019 #30
The article says he bought them from Verso, the publisher. torius Dec 2019 #36
There was a round of speaking engagements toward the end of last year and prior to formal.... George II Dec 2019 #48
Yes bought in bulk/wholesale torius Dec 2019 #56
As an author who probably deals with publishers, Hav Dec 2019 #33
No, they do not create revenue for the publisher torius Dec 2019 #37
No one said it's wrong to buy/sell books Hav Dec 2019 #44
"No one said" Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #45
No they did not. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #55
Who knows which book sales he was referring to? torius Dec 2019 #58
The publisher doesn't profit (or not much) from the bulk sales. torius Dec 2019 #57
Thanks for that explanation. progressoid Dec 2019 #42
sure! torius Dec 2019 #59
Saved by the asterisk! TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #43
Yes torius Dec 2019 #60
He didn't "write" his first big seller until August 2016, when Hillary Clinton was out on the trail. George II Dec 2019 #5
Hmmm.. I thought the books were sold Cha Dec 2019 #3
It gets you to the top of the best seller list. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #13
But not in a fair way.. Cha Dec 2019 #15
Correct, Cha. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #16
Ewww! That just feels and sounds icky. n/t Tarheel_Dem Dec 2019 #40
I know. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #46
We always suspected this NYMinute Dec 2019 #6
Buying one's own books is common throughout the book-selling business. No Vested Interest Dec 2019 #7
Yes, I've heard this for years Raine Dec 2019 #39
Oh, just say buying your own books is "grassroots" and it'll be fine. betsuni Dec 2019 #10
Zing. Yes.. how grassrootsy of him. Cha Dec 2019 #14
It's best seller-"ish" grantcart Dec 2019 #23
lol.. exactly! Cha Dec 2019 #24
If you are going to do this, please accept contributions from billionaires... W_HAMILTON Dec 2019 #17
Agree. This makes me very sad: betsuni Dec 2019 #25
For the win! sheshe2 Dec 2019 #31
Thanks! Here's Bernie giving himself the benefit of the doubt: betsuni Dec 2019 #32
Oh my... sheshe2 Dec 2019 #34
This is the best the anti BS people can come up with? Joe941 Dec 2019 #18
There is so much to choose from it would take hundreds of hours to rank them grantcart Dec 2019 #26
Just shows how hard they are reaching. Joe941 Dec 2019 #27
I am glad they included it. Just one of the character reveling episodes grantcart Dec 2019 #29
Not even close to "the best". Lexee Dec 2019 #35
I figured they all do that.. Raine Dec 2019 #38
The article only mentions Republicans who've done it. betsuni Dec 2019 #41
Am I correct that Bernie has a huge list of donors who have pledged monthly donations No Vested Interest Dec 2019 #47
Amy Klobuchar is selling her book at her campaign website. Eric J in MN Dec 2019 #49
No, that's not the same. W_HAMILTON Dec 2019 #52
I'd read that's how "Dianetics" made it to the NYT Bestseller's list. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #50
Kick! TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #51
Laid-off steelworkers in Detroit don't give a flying fuck... SMC22307 Dec 2019 #53
Sanders buying his own book ? Are you saying he used his personal OnDoutside Dec 2019 #61
I have NO idea and I don't care. SMC22307 Dec 2019 #62
I wish you folks would go tilt at other James48 Dec 2019 #54
KICK! Cha Dec 2019 #63
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