Democratic Primaries

Kahuna7

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93. "The future's not the past?" Really? That's pretty glib...

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 06:05 PM

Dec 2019

In fact, your entire post is pretty glib. The Democratic platform has always been progressive so don't hand me that crap. Think of the progress we could have made if the far left had not voted third party out of spite in 2000 and 2016. It's not Biden's fault.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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FDR, Truman, Kennedy, LBJ,Carter, Clinton, Obama ... all Establishment Democrats [View all] Peacetrain Dec 2019 OP

this is just justification from the center janterry Dec 2019 #1

Bullshit. W_HAMILTON Dec 2019 #2

Touche'! Cha Dec 2019 #6

I know what I see janterry Dec 2019 #8

If you understand the concept of "regression to the mean"... Sloumeau Dec 2019 #63

I honestly don't think that will work janterry Dec 2019 #66

I don't get it. People act like there's been no progress made. I'm 65.. Kahuna7 Dec 2019 #16

If you like progress, stop making "The Establishment" your god. DemocracyMouse Dec 2019 #20

+1 progressoid Dec 2019 #22

No one is making anyone a "god". Cha Dec 2019 #28

Well justie18 Dec 2019 #34

"The Estasblisment" of the Democratic Party has accomplished far more for people like me... W_HAMILTON Dec 2019 #41

Pretty sanctimonious to bring up god LakeArenal Dec 2019 #55

Wait...what? Elizabeth Warren (your candidate) is a proud Democrat. lapucelle Dec 2019 #77

I know there has been progress janterry Dec 2019 #69

"The future's not the past?" Really? That's pretty glib... Kahuna7 Dec 2019 #93

No, it's not Biden's fault janterry Dec 2019 #94

*cough cough* progressoid Dec 2019 #23

Yes, He was an outsider like Bernie or Elizabeth once. Embrace evolution, not establishment stasis DemocracyMouse Dec 2019 #110

And a funny thing on the way to the enlightenment: DemocracyMouse Dec 2019 #111

Yeah, I'm glad he's evolving. progressoid Dec 2019 #112

+1 TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #45

+++++++ PhoenixDem Dec 2019 #68

Total BS Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #4

Sorry, but that's complete and utter bullshit. Amimnoch Dec 2019 #5

It's sad that these push backs might win janterry Dec 2019 #9

In the 60s they were called "reactionaries." DemocracyMouse Dec 2019 #24

BS is "establishment" himself.. Cha Dec 2019 #14

And how can someone who's been in Congress for decades The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #72

That's just it.. "a claim" while he Cha Dec 2019 #73

+1 TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #46

I sure would not say sorry. LakeArenal Dec 2019 #56

++++++++++++++ emmaverybo Dec 2019 #102

True. betsuni Dec 2019 #108

No. this is REALITY. the one who is "taking on Cha Dec 2019 #10

The Democratic Presidents that Peacetrain listed... Sloumeau Dec 2019 #17

Why do I get the feeling that some of the Biden supporters... DemocracyMouse Dec 2019 #26

Because you don't know any better. Cha Dec 2019 #30

Every word you write is simply the truth, Cha. emmaverybo Dec 2019 #103

Thank you, emmaverybo.. Cha Dec 2019 #109

. TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #48

Actually, all of our careers are benefitting from establishment Democrats... Sloumeau Dec 2019 #50

For that matter, how do we know who pays your bills? You could be a Russian plant for all we... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2019 #65

Why do I get the feeling that some of others supporters Amimnoch Dec 2019 #80

The tear-it-down philosophy also overlooks treestar Dec 2019 #84

+1000000000000000000000000 emmaverybo Dec 2019 #105

Your laud FDR but call bullshit on the candidates who press for Rooseveltian policies. hedda_foil Dec 2019 #85

You wrote the following: Sloumeau Dec 2019 #88

Okay. Perhaps you and have a different understanding of the word "establishment." hedda_foil Dec 2019 #89

It is republicans who are trying PatSeg Dec 2019 #40

+1 TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #49

+1 betsuni Dec 2019 #95

Yes. Yes. Yes. emmaverybo Dec 2019 #106

That's funny, just this morning in a response to me in a different thread, someone was.... George II Dec 2019 #43

Wrong. TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #47

+1000! JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #54

OF COURSE Warren is an establishment Democrat. And yet look how progressive this woman is, pnwmom Dec 2019 #59

Guess what? These are not YOUR 'progressive' ideas nini Dec 2019 #60

This is absolutely ridiculous and not true. Scoopster Dec 2019 #83

If Warren or sanders is the nominee, Texas will not be a battleground state Gothmog Dec 2019 #113

Truman and Kennedy advocated Single Payer. NT Eric J in MN Dec 2019 #3

And still were establishment. -NT Amimnoch Dec 2019 #7

Because they were presidents? Eric J in MN Dec 2019 #13

FDR advocated a Second Bill of Rights Eric J in MN Dec 2019 #11

I would LOVE for that kind of "establishment" to be the actual "status quo" in this country. ehrnst Dec 2019 #12

It is not a purity test it is personal preference. CentralMass Dec 2019 #15

THANK YOU. n/t CousinIT Dec 2019 #18

Are you really comparing where Biden stands with the progressive accomplishments of FDR? Magoo48 Dec 2019 #19

Read it again.. Cha Dec 2019 #21

+∞ LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #25

If we don't distinguish one Democrat from another during primaries, Magoo48 Dec 2019 #27

Cha. You de bomb. Always great with the answers to bull puckie. LakeArenal Dec 2019 #58

Thanks? lol Cha Dec 2019 #61

Merry whatever LakeArenal Dec 2019 #62

Feliz Navidad, mi amiga! Cha Dec 2019 #64

Having witty comebacks and hitting the fist bump emoji is impressive, Magoo48 Dec 2019 #115

Understanding what the OP says.. is "impressive", too. Cha Dec 2019 #117

Clinton and Obama ran as Progressives brutus smith Dec 2019 #81

And? Cha Dec 2019 #97

And if we want to win we need a progressive candidate, not status quo Joe. brutus smith Dec 2019 #98

Keep your insults about Joe.. there's nothing "status quo" Cha Dec 2019 #99

Not to worry, Joe is NOT going to be the Democratic nominee. Bernie's got this!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #101

+1000 brutus smith Dec 2019 #114

Thank you -- That rhetorical question is much needed. whathehell Dec 2019 #35

DO NOT DIVIDE DEMOCRATS ONE FROM THE OTHER tobefree Dec 2019 #29

Primary competition is NOT divisive Boomer Dec 2019 #31

Except that Sanders' record on this matter disputes your prediction LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #32

Yes.. what LongtimeAZDem said! And, no one Cha Dec 2019 #39

An "Establishment Democrat" of the FDR, Truman, Kennedy, LBJ and whathehell Dec 2019 #33

And as far as I know....they ALL considered the Constitution as a Ferrets are Cool Dec 2019 #36

How are people defining "establishment" here? wnylib Dec 2019 #37

Good point, FDR was not establishment at the time. Quixote1818 Dec 2019 #70

My concern is that we will cannibaluze wnylib Dec 2019 #87

Bottom Line.. Whoever is pushing "them" VS Cha Dec 2019 #38

The Republicans win not only by cheating they win by being united wendyb-NC Dec 2019 #42

"Democrats fall in love. Republicans fall in line" The Mouth Dec 2019 #79

K&R! nt TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #44

They all had to deal with inherited situations and entrenched interests too bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #51

Here is Pete Seeger calling FDR a corporatist sellout warmonger in a song Recursion Dec 2019 #52

In "The Way We Were," Streisand's character, when she's in college, hates FDR: she's anti-war. betsuni Dec 2019 #96

Sanders really has hit a nerve. Voltaire2 Dec 2019 #53

Yep Sanders really unites Peacetrain Dec 2019 #67

Such a "uniter".. Cha Dec 2019 #74

I am proud to be a member of the Democratic Party Gothmog Dec 2019 #57

I'm a proud liberal Democrat. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #71

This +1 LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #78

Yes he was!.. Peacetrain Dec 2019 #86

"Establishment" is what majority Democrats support and create. Hortensis Dec 2019 #75

It's funny and sad to me to see people immediately jump to a defensive posture at this post Docreed2003 Dec 2019 #76

+1 redqueen Dec 2019 #90

Bernie's only real jobs have been elected positions. He IS the "establishment". LongtimeAZDem Dec 2019 #82

K&R highplainsdem Dec 2019 #91

warren is as establishment as u can get. nt msongs Dec 2019 #92

FDR? colsohlibgal Dec 2019 #100

Wow. All our D Presidents weren't D's? GemDigger Dec 2019 #104

Truly great post. emmaverybo Dec 2019 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2019 #116

"They were forward thinkers..." myohmy2 Dec 2019 #118

...you mean one of those "establishment" Democrats who gets things accomplished?... ehrnst Dec 2019 #119

Established Democrat, Nancy Pelosi, has done miuch more Cha Dec 2019 #120

I like being a member of the Democrtic Party Gothmog Dec 2019 #121