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greatauntoftriplets

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4. Great post.
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 01:55 PM
Dec 2019

In the early 1970s, I visited Germany and spent time in both the West and East. In Berlin, there were some stark examples of the differences between the two zones. Stores in WB had shelves stock with attractive well-made merchandise. By contrast, in the East store shelves had maybe a few items, mostly unattractive. Restaurants in the East would run out of food for lunch by 1 p.m. That never happened in the West. West Berlin had experienced significant rebuilding in the 25 years since WWII had ended. Ruins from the war were too common in the East.

While I know that Germany was experiencing an extreme form of socialism, it was clear to see that the system was not working.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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... Donkees Dec 2019 #1
That applies to the state as well Marengo Dec 2019 #3
Abolitionists, unions and civil rights activists are NOT socialists. Hortensis Dec 2019 #2
Great post. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2019 #4
Great post! Nothing like first-hand knowledge Hortensis Dec 2019 #5
Thanks! greatauntoftriplets Dec 2019 #6
I bet. China's advanced enormously over a short period Hortensis Dec 2019 #7
Oh, it has! greatauntoftriplets Dec 2019 #14
Plenty have been. WEB Du Bois and Harry Bridges to name a couple. David__77 Dec 2019 #8
Yes, googling's a marvel. Merry Christmas Eve. :) nt Hortensis Dec 2019 #10
Merry Christmas Eve to you! David__77 Dec 2019 #12
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Was all that work worth it? Enjoy your stay. George II Dec 2019 #16
Not sure if that was an essay or a diatribe... but it was a lot of work for not much reward or... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #18
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #9
Socialists have been at the heart of freedom movements. David__77 Dec 2019 #11
Congressman Meyer London ... Donkees Dec 2019 #13
Many non-socialists have been at the heart, too... George II Dec 2019 #17
Absolutely! David__77 Dec 2019 #19
I know you're sincere, but socialism constrains freedom Hortensis Dec 2019 #20
I get the argument. David__77 Dec 2019 #21
Many things have worked, but the constant flux of change, Hortensis Dec 2019 #22
Different views of social contract. David__77 Dec 2019 #23
Absolutely. Noting, btw, that political psychologists Hortensis Dec 2019 #24
And Merry Christmas to you! David__77 Dec 2019 #25
The US myth of the rugged individual is nonsense. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #26
K&R... great post Donkees!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #27
" Wall Street likes it that way. They want depressed and anxious sheep who can be sheared without a JudyM Dec 2019 #28
Dickens wrote it better... brooklynite Dec 2019 #29
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