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TomCADem

(17,834 posts)
9. Bernie Sanders' Ugly Campaigning Is Bad for Democrats -- and Great for Trump
Fri Dec 27, 2019, 11:35 PM
Dec 2019

While Biden has been gracious to Bernie, the fact of the matter is that Bernie happily engages in scorched earth campaigning. Biden is not the first, and not the last. This is why Bernie is bad for the Democratic party. He elevates himself by tearing everyone around him as noted in the following article tracing the Bernie campaigns early attacks on potential rivals.

https://gen.medium.com/bernie-sanders-bad-attitude-is-bad-for-democrats-and-great-for-trump-bd0ac7376146

I never caught Betomania, but it’s hard to ignore the larger, more obvious pattern — that this has happened to every candidate who has gathered enough buzz to pose a challenge to Sanders, deserving or not. I can believe that O’Rourke is a sizzle in search of a steak. But I find it harder to believe that O’Rourke is the face of Big Oil, and Elizabeth Warren embraces neoliberal capitalism at its most rapacious, and Kamala Harris is the carceral state incarnate, and Cory Booker is popular only due to racial tokenism, and Kirsten Gillibrand is in deep with Big Tobacco, and Amy Klobuchar, I don’t know, never brings a hot dish. They haven’t gotten to her yet.
The problem is not the reporting on these politicians’ individual sins, some of which is correct, and some of which, like Sirota’s freakout, is wildly exaggerated. It’s not even the “boy who cried wolf” quality of hearing so many similar denunciations in a row, though it is increasingly tough to take any one hit piece seriously. It’s the implication that these errors are unilaterally disqualifying and should outweigh any good the candidates might do. There is no acknowledgment, after 2016, of just how dangerous that attitude might be or of what other forces might be arrayed against the candidates in question. The decision to tie Gillibrand to the fact that she represented tobacco companies as a young lawyer, for example, took place before she called for Al Franken’s resignation and her candidacy was nuked from orbit by powerful donors. Sanders’ core supporters went for Gillibrand as hard as possible, right out of the gate, not realizing that institutional sexism would eventually do their work for them. Again.

The lingering anger many Clinton supporters feel at Sanders isn’t because he ran against her or because he ran with the goal of pushing her to the left. Again, many of the ideas Sanders has nudged into the American mainstream are good ones. That mistrust stems from how reckless Sanders was with the anger he riled up. Long after he knew he’d lost, he continued to call Clinton “unqualified” or insist she was the head of a massive conspiracy. He knew it could do no good, and he should have seen that the dangerous toll of his negative messaging — the death threats to Democratic Party officials and reporters, the demolished coalitions and names dragged through the mud, the ever-increasing threat that if there was no Bernie, the nation itself would bust — was rising. Yet he appeared shocked that he could not undo the damage; even Bernie Sanders got booed for not supporting Bernie Sanders.

To destroy one rival this way may be regarded as a misfortune. To destroy them all looks like carelessness. It looks like a candidate who has not yet learned to push his advantage in any other way than going negative, even though any of his rivals, should they defeat Sanders, will be the only protection we have against a second Trump term. To be clear: If Sanders is the nominee, I will vote for him. The good he might do outweighs the harm. It’s just not clear that Sanders knows how to say that about anyone else. The viciousness of the 2016 campaign may just have been a mistake, even if it was a bad one. If the pattern continues into 2020, we will have to call it something much worse.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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lol.. perfect! This is what I had to say about BS' Cha Dec 2019 #1
OMG! Wipe out! sheshe2 Dec 2019 #6
Mahalo, she! I don't know how Cha Dec 2019 #31
Those drummers were AbSoLuTeLy AMAZING. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #34
Clever and classy, as is typical with Joe Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #2
darn right JOE is clever AND classy !!!!! trueblue2007 Dec 2019 #24
Agreed Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #46
LOL Gothmog Dec 2019 #3
The reporter asks.. ".. who trump?".. As IF! Cha Dec 2019 #4
I have to agree with Bernie on this. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #5
I have to agree with Joe on this. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #7
What a surprise BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #22
K&R sheshe2 Dec 2019 #8
Bernie Sanders' Ugly Campaigning Is Bad for Democrats -- and Great for Trump TomCADem Dec 2019 #9
It's going to get really bad once voting begins. OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #10
Bernie Will Go Scorched Earth Once It Is Down to Two People TomCADem Dec 2019 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #14
Agree. BS always sounds like an angry uncle. onetexan Dec 2019 #20
Bernie Will Go Scorched Earth Once It Is Down to Two People .... just like he did in 2016 trueblue2007 Dec 2019 #25
Rerun. sprinkleeninow Dec 2019 #37
I tend to agree, if he gets into a one v two race, it'll be even worse OnDoutside Dec 2019 #45
Holy shit. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #12
Hope it Cha Dec 2019 #32
Thanks for this. It's obvious why Bernie needs to attack R B Garr Dec 2019 #48
That is a pretty good line. StrictlyRockers Dec 2019 #13
Bernie would refuse evertonfc Dec 2019 #15
It is desserts not deserts ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #17
Ha. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2019 #27
No, makin deserts is WAY more back-breaking work than makin desserts...they DESSERVE the higher wage InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #40
Crazy DIAMOND! ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #41
Shine on!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #42
Bernie is correct James48 Dec 2019 #16
BS is WRONG. Cha Dec 2019 #18
nope, we don't trueblue2007 Dec 2019 #26
Yep. Tiggeroshii Dec 2019 #47
Without question...though, right now, there are at least 9 states, I think Joe could win vs Dolt45. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #39
Bernie thinks Republicans will vote for him and that before him Democrats had no ideas. betsuni Dec 2019 #19
I have talked to a number James48 Dec 2019 #35
The reality is that sanders will not be the nominee... thank goodness!! Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #21
I handicap horses and I am really good ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #23
On a roll. SammyWinstonJack Dec 2019 #28
Thanks Sammy ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #29
I didn't bet on Bernie in 2016. John Fante Dec 2019 #43
LOL, exactly. If Bernie ran horses, he'd complain R B Garr Dec 2019 #49
I will not be voting for Bernie in the primary orangecrush Dec 2019 #30
What did you have for dinner? ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #33
Thank you for saying this. betsuni Dec 2019 #36
Most welcome! orangecrush Dec 2019 #38
Joe's response is classier than mine would've been. NBachers Dec 2019 #44
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