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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

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53. Clarification

Sat Dec 28, 2019, 02:16 PM

Dec 2019

"I want to clarify something I said yesterday. In my 40 years in public life, I have always complied with a lawful order and in my eight years as VP, my office — unlike Donald Trump and Mike Pence — cooperated with legitimate congressional oversight requests," Biden tweeted Saturday morning. "But I am just not going to pretend that there is any legal basis for Republican subpoenas for my testimony in the impeachment trial. That is the point I was making yesterday and I reiterate: this impeachment is about Trump’s conduct, not mine."

Biden went on to say that the Senate should subpoena White House officials who were witnesses to "Trump’s shaking down the Ukraine government."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-clarifies-after-saying-he-wouldnt-comply-with-impeachment-related-subpoena/ar-BBYqa3e?li=BBnb7Kz

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Joe Biden Says He'd Defy Subpoena to Testify in Trump's Senate Trial [View all] bluewater Dec 2019 OP

False equivalence. TwilightZone Dec 2019 #1

You don't have to be on trial to be supeonaed. bluewater Dec 2019 #4

Biden is not a witness to the charges brought against Trump, so your argument fails. Skya Rhen Dec 2019 #6

Then that's what he should say in the hearing wellst0nev0ter Dec 2019 #9

exactly bluewater Dec 2019 #14

What hearing? George II Dec 2019 #20

+++ still_one Dec 2019 #52

There has to be a valid reason articulated in the subpoena. There won't be one IF they try. George II Dec 2019 #19

It doesn't matter, the law demands your response to a subpoena, that republicans are not Perseus Dec 2019 #25

What was Biden's clairification exactly? bluewater Dec 2019 #46

You are correct, he didn't say that Perseus Dec 2019 #49

good for him samnsara Dec 2019 #2

This is just the beginning janterry Dec 2019 #3

Not if we want to win...and can I just say echoing GOP talking points and giving Trump what he wants Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #41

I don't believe that Biden can win janterry Dec 2019 #50

I'm with you, I also feel that Biden cannot win Perseus Dec 2019 #57

Wishful thinking and he will be the nominee despite Trump's best efforts. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #66

Well I disagree. I don't believe Warren or Sanders can win...and that is my opinion. I believe Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #65

This is one time when it would have been extremely prudent to keep his mouth shut Perseus Dec 2019 #5

I agree... Zoonart Dec 2019 #7

Yeap, and much more to come... Perseus Dec 2019 #8

Oops: Kingofalldems Dec 2019 #10

And a big oops it is bluewater Dec 2019 #13

Not a good try there. Kingofalldems Dec 2019 #15

Care to point out any unlawful Congressional supeonas? bluewater Dec 2019 #18

Biden is not on trial. Kingofalldems Dec 2019 #59

So? A supoena is a supeona. bluewater Dec 2019 #60

Not a fact witness by any stretch. Kingofalldems Dec 2019 #61

People can simply refuse to comply with Congressional Supeonas? bluewater Dec 2019 #63

If supeonaed, Biden must appear. It's that straight forward. Lexee Dec 2019 #64

No it isn't...I would fight it in court...Trump should get a taste of his own medicine...how many Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #71

No one is arguing fighting it in court. We are saying stating he will not comply is wrong. Lexee Dec 2019 #79

We need to stop defending any of Biden's gaffes at all cost Perseus Dec 2019 #29

Yes Joe, you are correct, the impeachment is not about you, its about the con Perseus Dec 2019 #26

This is akin to accusing someone of being at fault because someone attacked them Peacetrain Dec 2019 #11

How else was he supposed to answer this question from The Register? Bayard Dec 2019 #12

How about "You're damn right I'll testify" wellst0nev0ter Dec 2019 #16

By saying of course he would comply with a Congressional supeona? bluewater Dec 2019 #17

Nope.. you got this one completely bass ackwards. Peacetrain Dec 2019 #21

Fail...clearly some hope that Biden will falter and their candidate will move ahead. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #35

How about "No comment, this is an irrelevant question." Perseus Dec 2019 #31

Another rookie mistake by Joe. JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #22

I've been saying all along, JOE BIDEN IS NOT GOING TO WIN THE ELECTION!!!! Scotch-Irish Dec 2019 #23

Joe Biden is the only candidate who can win the general election Gothmog Dec 2019 #30

Nope. Fortunately at least 4 Dems are beating Trump head to head bluewater Dec 2019 #33

Biden is the only candidate that trump is afraid of Gothmog Dec 2019 #47

I would be very happy if it was true...but it isn't. State polls show a different story...we will Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #68

It is true. Any of 4 Dems can and would defeat tRump. bluewater Dec 2019 #73

Very well put Perseus Dec 2019 #36

Yeah" a but her emails moment" among those who support a different candidate...Biden is up in every Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #45

Bullshit Turin_C3PO Dec 2019 #70

+1000 Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #72

Well you would be wrong...Biden is the only candidate who will defeat Trump period. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #37

I don't believe he can win, either janterry Dec 2019 #54

I was pretty much aghast when I heard that he said this. He could have said, "The Republicans... LAS14 Dec 2019 #24

Total crap...he is being subpoenaed when there is no reason for it in order to help Trump...period. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #27

Yeah, but this a congressional subpoena is legal. You have to fight it... LAS14 Dec 2019 #34

It will not be legal as it has no bearing on the hearings...He will fight it in court as he should. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #38

First of all they have to get a subpeona and it could backfire on them...didn't work out so well Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #69

Sorry but you are missing the point completely Perseus Dec 2019 #39

That is not actually what he said...and the subpoena would be unlawful. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #43

I suggest you read Biden's statement and stop saying things that are not accurate. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #67

It would take 51 votes in the Senate to issue this subpoena and if this happens, Biden will comply Gothmog Dec 2019 #28

It's really weird Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2019 #32

I think it's good he said it now - not later. It's good strategy. Lets the air out of it now. bitterross Dec 2019 #40

He wouldn't "defy" it; he'd challenge it in court, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #42

I agree with you. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #44

From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Dec 2019 #48

But he's backtracking janterry Dec 2019 #51

I disagree Gothmog Dec 2019 #58

Joe's clairification seems unclear. bluewater Dec 2019 #62

Not to me Gothmog Dec 2019 #82

More wishful thinking. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #74

Clarification Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2019 #53

Foot in mouth-again randr Dec 2019 #55

Sure he does... Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #75

I beg to differ randr Dec 2019 #81

If the Senate subpoenas VP Biden and he doesn't comply, Baked Potato Dec 2019 #56

That is called caving and there isn't a Democrat who will be safe from these assholes if we Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #76

I look at it as extreme vetting. Joe Biden can make this a huge positive Baked Potato Dec 2019 #80

Circular reasoning if making Biden's refusal equivalent to Trump & WH refusing no_hypocrisy Dec 2019 #77

Right you are, Joe. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander. sandensea Dec 2019 #78

Have to disagree with the idea Biden is making an unforced error. Aaron Pereira Dec 2019 #83