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Drunken Irishman

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24. I did.
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 06:09 PM
Dec 2019
If it's a conspiracy against your candidate, why have they decreased each cycle since 2008?


You've failed at backing up your initial assertion that it shouldn't be harder to reach voters in 2019 than it was in 2016 and I outlined, pretty reasonably, I might add, why it is, in fact, more difficult to reach voters today than four years ago. You had no answer for my evidence, so, you do what many who can't concede defeat do and you deflected by asking an avoiding question. It's cute but you're the one who posted the initial claim and I refuted it. You started the dialogue and I responded. It's my fault that I expected actually having an intelligent conversation based around facts with someone on here - oops. Instead, you took the Donald Trump approach and made an easily disprovable claim and then, when confronted with evidence about why that claim doesn't hold up, you pivoted to something different altogether.

Whatever. Your initial post was wrong. I showed you why you were wrong. I feel I did my due diligence in proving how wrong you were. If you refuse to answer the information I provided, that's on you. It just indicates to me to never enter into another conversation again with you because you're clearly not here for actual debate and rather just lobbing bullshit accusations with the occasional gas-lighting. So, good luck.

But to answer your ridiculously vague question: polls are most valuable and accurate when the resources, and costs, are invested into 'em, which means, maybe fewer, but more accurate polls, are the wave of the future despite your whining about there being less polls conducted than four years ago. Since more resources go into mining polling data today than a decade ago, the cost + effort likely means fewer overall polls so not to undermine the data.

It's a big reason I am skittish about the accuracy of the weekly polls from the Economist/YouGov and Morning Consult, even if they show Biden doing well.

So there you go. Peace.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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No idea. crazytown Dec 2019 #1
They knew Bernie would be surging in December but didn't want to promote it. n/t Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #2
Not everything that happens is an anti-Bernie conspiracy, Uncle Joe. maybe they just got tired of beastie boy Dec 2019 #7
Biden is sliding in the polls and has been for months, Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #9
He will need to do a hell of a lot more sliding before he can challenge anyone for the #2 position! beastie boy Dec 2019 #10
This just isn't true. Drunken Irishman Dec 2019 #16
Thank You DarthDem Dec 2019 #26
Please stop. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #30
That's the difference between what one considers "miraculous" and Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #33
Non answer. nt sheshe2 Dec 2019 #34
. TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #35
I was puzzled ritapria Dec 2019 #3
Not money so much as fear of being wrong judeling Dec 2019 #4
I believe December polls would prove otherwise. Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #6
National Polls sure but early state level polls are greatly dimiished. judeling Dec 2019 #11
That changes in December; only six weeks away from the vote. In 2016 they had 14 polls Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #12
See Reply 14... Drunken Irishman Dec 2019 #15
The polls weren't really wrong in 2016, the polls changed. StevieM Dec 2019 #27
all part of the massive bernie blackout lol. nt msongs Dec 2019 #5
Yes. n/t Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #8
Oh my God, they are missing yet another Bernie surge! justhanginon Dec 2019 #13
OMG i blinked & missed it onetexan Dec 2019 #31
It's not bullshit - & there's a clear trend. Polling has significantly decreased each election cycle Drunken Irishman Dec 2019 #14
I guess that's one advantage individual donors and donations have over polls, Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #17
Except the decrease aligns perfectly with the trend. Drunken Irishman Dec 2019 #18
When are polls most valuable or accurate Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #19
If it's a conspiracy against your candidate, why have they decreased each cycle since 2008? Drunken Irishman Dec 2019 #20
You never answered my question. Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #21
You never answered mine. Drunken Irishman Dec 2019 #22
You never asked a question but I did and you still haven't answered it. n/t Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #23
I did. Drunken Irishman Dec 2019 #24
The point I was getting at and to which you couldn't/wouldn't acknowledge Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #25
I guess it is possible that a slew of new polls will come out on Monday. StevieM Dec 2019 #29
Three days left in the month, Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #32
Perhaps you would like to kick in some money to finance those polls? TexasTowelie Dec 2019 #36
or perhaps feeling the spirit. n/t Uncle Joe Dec 2019 #37
Thank You it is a huge problem. judeling Dec 2019 #28
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