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karynnj

(61,094 posts)
49. I think you are misinterpreting the answer
Tue Dec 31, 2019, 02:16 PM
Dec 2019

He was asked if he would consider a Republican - he essentially said theoretically yes, but he can't think of any. He, in response to other questions said he could think of 7 (I think that number is correct) women. He obviously is not saying there are no Democrats he is thinking of.

In reality, even if there were a perfect Republican (and if so, why has he not left the party?), there are several problems. In 2004, some one on McCain's staff asked Kerry to speak with McCain about it. After McCain indicated he would not become a Democrat - something that in 2001 when Jeffords did was rumored in the media - it was clear it could not work. The two men, though they had great respect for each other, were simply too far apart on most important issues.

Assume that Kerry/McCain had run, there are issues Kerry could have delegated to McCain - like the VA, for which the 2 had teamed to pass several bills. At that point, McCain was actually good on climate change. However, on most issues he was more hawkish than Kerry and he was a conservative and Kerry a liberal - almost guaranteeing they would be on opposite sides of nearly all economic related bills.

Not to mention, McCain running with Kerry would have made him dead to the Republican party. Given that he himself had Presidential aspirations and there is no way the Democratic party would have backed him had Kerry won and gotten two terms, accepting running with Kerry would have been sacrificing his own aspirations.


The idea of a bipartisan ticket reemerged in 2008, when McCain's first choice was supposedly Joe Lieberman. There was a closer match there in that both Lieberman and McCain were hawks and may have been pretty close to each other on foreign policy. They also had both sponsored climate change bills. Lieberman was also a centrist on many domestic issues - making it easier to bridge his and McCain's positions. The GOP made it clear that they did not want this.

Not to be ghoulish, in 2008, the concern for who McCain would chose was colored by the possibility that that person could become President. A bipartisan ticket would transfer the Presidency to the other party if the President becomes incapacitated. Given that it is incomprehensible that the Democrats would have nominated VP McCain or the Republicans would nominate VP Lieberman, there is reason to think the party could ever be happy with a bipartisan ticket.

As to Republicans now - I think Biden got along well with Senator Hagel on the SFRC and in the Obama administration -- but two white men over 70 is not a reasonable ticket - no matter who they are.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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He was just trying to show that he can work with people. underpants Dec 2019 #1
Agreed. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #3
Exactly. It was a good answer to a loaded question, and at the same time still_one Dec 2019 #10
Biden was cutting with a razor. guillaumeb Dec 2019 #11
I agree still_one Dec 2019 #15
Work with people on what? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #18
It's a reach out to independents underpants Dec 2019 #19
I would consider moving to china. or jumping off 9 story building. considering means msongs Dec 2019 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #28
Same here. I'd consider. Rorey Dec 2019 #56
Most charitable interpretation wellst0nev0ter Dec 2019 #4
At first, I thought that was a Tulsi quote that was misattributed to Biden. TheBlackAdder Dec 2019 #40
Biden's answer says for you not to worry about it.. Cha Dec 2019 #5
It was a great answer to a loaded question, and shows that some seem to lack still_one Dec 2019 #12
You posted this twice in gd. Tipperary Dec 2019 #6
It says other Democrats are not jeopardizing their agenda and legacy by pushing such a foolish idea. LonePirate Dec 2019 #7
If Bernie had said the same about picking a Repub, some of us would immediately get... JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #8
Sanders has said very similar things, and got the same push back here still_one Dec 2019 #13
To quote the Foos... JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #16
These are non-issues which are not goig to happen, and only distracts from the issues still_one Dec 2019 #20
Picking a Repubs VP would be a giant issue for any Dem. JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #23
No Democratic candidate is going to pick a Republican VP. It was a great answer to a loaded still_one Dec 2019 #24
+1 Kurt V. Dec 2019 #27
If Bernie catches a cold ritapria Dec 2019 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author INdemo Dec 2019 #60
Instead he had a heart attack treestar Dec 2019 #61
Yup. A huge double standard. Joe941 Dec 2019 #57
Didn't he once treestar Dec 2019 #62
you really should post what he actually said Skittles Dec 2019 #9
+++ still_one Dec 2019 #31
Bernie's staff voted third party. He seems fine with R B Garr Dec 2019 #14
How do you know that? JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #17
Because Briana Joy Gray not only said she did, but had no regrets doing so still_one Dec 2019 #25
You said Bernie's "staff". Or, again as the Foos sing: JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #26
she is a spokesperson for his campaign still_one Dec 2019 #30
You can paint any picture you want but, one person is not the same as a... JoeOtterbein Dec 2019 #38
There's a difference between staffers voting 3rd party... TommyCelt Dec 2019 #46
We saw what happened when staffers and their followers voted 3rd party - Trump won. Skya Rhen Dec 2019 #48
That's laughable, considering the one who actually switches R B Garr Dec 2019 #50
Although he said it in jest, it shows that he is bigger than his ego and he is not into purity tests beastie boy Dec 2019 #21
YES elleng Dec 2019 #33
It's not going to happen, so chill out. RandySF Dec 2019 #29
It says NOTHING, elleng Dec 2019 #32
He also said he couldn't think of any GOPer he'd choose. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #34
Umm.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2019 #35
Yup.... appears OP didn't bother to read whistler162 Dec 2019 #43
Remember John Kerry & McCain... Historic NY Dec 2019 #36
If he wants to lose the election, running with a Republican is the way to do it. dflprincess Dec 2019 #37
It would be painful for me to vote for Warren whom I don't support...but I would do it gladly Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #39
If he did he would lose more Democrats than gain republican voters duforsure Dec 2019 #41
He said that? Polybius Dec 2019 #42
He is not thinking of any dansolo Dec 2019 #44
Ouch... TommyCelt Dec 2019 #45
It doesn't say anything. He was just answering a hypothetical. That's all. n/t totodeinhere Dec 2019 #47
I think you are misinterpreting the answer karynnj Dec 2019 #49
All it shows is this has gone on way too long. Srkdqltr Dec 2019 #51
I think he was just giving a soundbite to appeal to conservatives Bradical79 Dec 2019 #52
Is this the 15th or 20th thread about this NoMoreRepugs Dec 2019 #53
He's thinking about winning the Iowa caucus and this just might very well help him. Skya Rhen Dec 2019 #54
Being willing to make a Republican first in line for succession is a fundamental problem. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #55
He may consider it but he wouldn't actually doc03 Dec 2019 #58
It doesn't say anything about our other candidates. Biden has on numerous occasions totodeinhere Dec 2019 #59
Is Lieberman available? That should satisfy everyone. keithbvadu2 Dec 2019 #63
Lieberman is an opportunistic piece of shit who is one of the main reasons the ACA doesn't have... Humanist_Activist Jan 2020 #64
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