Democratic Primaries

PatSeg

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54. And I believe that relatively normal sane people

Sun Jan 5, 2020, 12:50 PM

Jan 2020

can be swept up in the moment, fueled by anger and discontent. It is easy to lose one's perspective especially if you are influenced by a charismatic leader. Of course, the definition of "charismatic" varies and personally, I've never seen the attraction that a lot of people did.

You know to be honest, I never bought the whole "Hope & Change" hype of 2008. I really don't like group mentality. I was more interested in tangible attributes like character, experience, and policy. I guess I am a hard-sell in that sense. Obama never sold himself to me as a candidate, he ended up earning my respect and support as a president. By 2012, I was an enthusiastic supporter at two of his rallies. It was an incredible experience, everyone was so genuinely happy and optimistic.

That is very quotable - "If it's not true, it's betrayal".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Will Bernie voters vote for Biden when he wins?🙄 [View all] Iamaartist Jan 2020 OP

If every Democrat does not vote for their nominee then they are ignorant. walkingman Jan 2020 #1

agreed... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #3

But were those 12% really "supporters" in the first place? George II Jan 2020 #7

My question, exactly The Mouth Jan 2020 #84

Lets Hope doesn't like 2016,,,,, Iamaartist Jan 2020 #9

Speaking of Iowa Caucuses ritapria Jan 2020 #2

you can't poll caucuses..... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #8

Uh oh, looks like the Bernie bashing's not workin... gonna need "more cowbell"!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #35

make it this kind of more cowbell and you have a deal.... ;) getagrip_already Jan 2020 #36

LOL, GOOD ONE... THAT TOO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #51

the next potus will have big things to worry about... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #69

Yeah, given the current political climate & worldwide conditions, you're prolly right. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #71

It's really not that big a deal..... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #75

You make a good point, cept for the part about Joe taking care of it... InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #78

Elizabeth/Bernie 2020 at140 Jan 2020 #57

Haha... that, obviously, would be fine with me too!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #72

If the final vote comes to exactly those numbers NYMinute Jan 2020 #83

They might not. Here's why I worry.... lamp_shade Jan 2020 #4

That could be a worry... Iamaartist Jan 2020 #11

That is really scary PatSeg Jan 2020 #17

Then there are the BS supporters who MontanaMama Jan 2020 #52

They call it a protest vote at140 Jan 2020 #60

But in reality, It's just a vote for Trump LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #62

YES, has the same effect --nt at140 Jan 2020 #63

It absolutely is a vote for the orange MF. MontanaMama Jan 2020 #64

Agreed; at best, they see their vote as a personal commodity, rather than a civic responsibility LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #66

At this point, I think the Democrats would vote for a Ham Sandwich over Donald Trump. Sloumeau Jan 2020 #5

If the ham sandwich includes swiss with mustard on toasted rye... abso-fuckin-lutely!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #74

LOL, yeah, with all the fixings, it definitely outdoes Trump. :) eom Sloumeau Jan 2020 #82

Over 90 million eligible voters didn't vote in 2016. The better question is, will any of them vote jalan48 Jan 2020 #6

Oh come on!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #10

If they don't they deserve Trump. Period. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #15

I think the real question is PatSeg Jan 2020 #20

We hope so,,,, Iamaartist Jan 2020 #21

It is hard to know what PatSeg Jan 2020 #28

Then Biden should win easily if he is the nominee. jalan48 Jan 2020 #32

I think so PatSeg Jan 2020 #34

I hope so as well if he's the nominee. Voter suppression as well as the Russian and American jalan48 Jan 2020 #50

Yes PatSeg Jan 2020 #58

I feel the same way about those stolen elections. I think we (Biden or another candidate) could well jalan48 Jan 2020 #67

Absolutely PatSeg Jan 2020 #73

I'm sure some would, but a helluva lot more,10s of millions, would come out to vote for Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #76

I think that's the critical question of the primary. What will energize many of the non-voters to jalan48 Jan 2020 #77

I'M 100% IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU!! THAT'S WHY IT'S GOTTA BE BERNIE LEADING US!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #79

When Bernie wins, why would his supporters vote for Biden? machI Jan 2020 #12

"When Bernie wins" dware Jan 2020 #14

LoL Iamaartist Jan 2020 #19

I guess that means they will be voting for Biden. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #53

I have no idea, as I don't bamagal62 Jan 2020 #13

I have a few friends PatSeg Jan 2020 #22

Great,,,,,Smart Young One,,,,, Iamaartist Jan 2020 #23

Democrats will vote Democrat. Sanders zealots will behave the same. Hortensis Jan 2020 #16

Kind of sounds like, PatSeg Jan 2020 #24

Yup. Extremism's definitely a dysfunction, but Hortensis Jan 2020 #42

And I believe that relatively normal sane people PatSeg Jan 2020 #54

Agree with all of it. I usually don't bother to listen to speeches Hortensis Jan 2020 #59

And that brings me to Joe Biden PatSeg Jan 2020 #65

This should have it's own OP LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #70

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Stop with the snide, rude attacks on Bernie right now ! dware Jan 2020 #25

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #29

Back atcha. dware Jan 2020 #30

Evidently that demand PatSeg Jan 2020 #45

I go to breakfast and come back to see dware Jan 2020 #56

Yeah PatSeg Jan 2020 #61

From my perspective, PatSeg Jan 2020 #26

..."a party that he adopts on a part-time basis... 3catwoman3 Jan 2020 #37

Thanks PatSeg Jan 2020 #43

How does the DNC disdain Bernie? treestar Jan 2020 #27

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #33

Gotta say "pretty please with sugar on top". oasis Jan 2020 #31

LOL. Words they will never hear from me. On twitter, many are already Kahuna7 Jan 2020 #38

Of course PatSeg Jan 2020 #46

That's true. Kahuna7 Jan 2020 #48

Yes, the majority will again vote for the democratic nominee. aidbo Jan 2020 #39

+1000 it's hard to see how these broad brush smears against a group of supporters redqueen Jan 2020 #49

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #40

Some will some won't ...the important this is getting out of the race when you have lost and I'm UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #41

If you look at twitter, reddit, or other online political forums, you see that a lot say they will not LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Jan 2020 #47

Biden will work to advance health-care for all, restore environmental protections, rebuild LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #55

+100. nt dware Jan 2020 #68

I just don't want to see another ruined convention EveHammond13 Jan 2020 #80

Like every Biden supporter I know, I will vote for the Democratic nominee, MineralMan Jan 2020 #81

Sure, most of them. aikoaiko Jan 2020 #85