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In reply to the discussion: This Is What a Republican Attack on Bernie Sanders Would Look Like [View all]ismnotwasm
(42,674 posts)47. "A good Rapid response system"
How clever of you to embed the link. It includes gems like this:
It must be noted that many centrists, like so many diehard Hillary fans, is deeply mired in the muck of Neoliberal-fuelled Identity Politics. Roy himself essentially admits this in his latest fusillade of baseless ad hominem trash bombs:
Im just sick of Bernie. This isnt because of policy disagreements, or lingering bitterness from the primary. I just think hes a thoroughly awful man.
After such an introduction, I honestly dont know why anyone would read further, but then I, like most Bernie supporters, reject any argument based solely on Identity Politics in favor of a more comprehensive view that Identity and Class are inextricably linked, and that Economic Justice is the pathway to Social Justice.
Nonetheless, the defenders of the Establishment and Hillary Clinton always use personal smears when punching left. They dare not oppose Bernie or any other real progressive on policy, because that would expose their own corruption. Yes, Hillary did literally shout that Single Payer would never, EVER happen and yes, that did put her at odds with 81% of Democrats (not to mention FDR, Truman, etc.), but this is something that most establishment Democrats will not want to bring up when attacking Bernie. They prefer to attack Single Payer on the basis of I support it in theory but it is just not practical or affordable now (translation: The Republicans wont let us.)
Clinton supporters had almost a cult-like fixation on Hillary as a person, her CV, her personal story, the religious belief that she was indeed the most qualified candidate ever to run for President. It was and remains all about HER.
Hillary supporters thus think that they can nullify the progressive revolt they face by denigrating what they consider to be its leader. Get rid of Bernie, they think, and the movement for change and reform within the Democratic Party will wither and die.
They are wrong.
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https://www.euroyankee.com/the-troll-smears-against-bernie-must-be-stopped%E2%80%8A-%E2%80%8Aheres-how-to-do-it/
This is dangerously close to refighting the primaries of 2016, and not to be taken seriously. The rest of it is also poorly written, and not exactly a glowing positive response, rather, quite reactionary in the finest Us against Them style.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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My point: Don't let the Republicans "re-brand" Sanders as a Socialist when his policies
no_hypocrisy
Jan 2020
#5
They don't HAVE to "re-brand" Sanders; he's a self-acknowledged Socialist...
brooklynite
Jan 2020
#9
The facts are that the socialists of FDRs time attacked him as a plutocrat
The Valley Below
Jan 2020
#66
He denied it because it was the truth. FDR understood full well the nature of socialism.
The Valley Below
Jan 2020
#68
FDR was branded a Socialist and said he wasn't...Sanders is branded a Socialist and say he is
brooklynite
Jan 2020
#46
The only people who claim that "Democratic Socialism" means something different from "Socialism"...
brooklynite
Jan 2020
#37
In 2016, my wife and I went to a Sanders rally and agreed with all of his policies...
brooklynite
Jan 2020
#48
BS supporters seem to have and oft mentioned resemblance to diehard rw trumpers.
empedocles
Jan 2020
#28
And FDR was a pro-capitalist, globalist, free-trader, who wanted the US to enter WWII.
The Valley Below
Jan 2020
#82
What's "funny" is people who are not remotely comparable to the great liberal Democratic
The Valley Below
Jan 2020
#86
Count on me not keeping silent when the legacy of the Democratic Party
The Valley Below
Jan 2020
#89
"Bernie now has the highest name recognition of any candidate..." Maybe not the highest, but...
George II
Jan 2020
#56
+1. Sick of the obsessive sniping. We would do far better w/adult discussion of the real issues.
JudyM
Jan 2020
#59
I have seen a ton of oppo on sanders and I think I know how trump would attack sanders
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#70
I try not to think about the convention, the lead up to it and the aftermath,
Blue_true
Jan 2020
#73