Democratic Primaries

Peacetrain

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38. Interesting.. VP Biden is an established leader in the Democratic Party.. soooooooo

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Mon Jan 6, 2020, 11:18 AM

Jan 2020

whose nose is out of joint because they find themselves in the wrong party?? just sayin

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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AOC: "In any other country, Joe Biden and I would not be in the same party, but in America, we are." [View all] Otto Lidenbrock Jan 2020 OP

isn't it the truth? janterry Jan 2020 #1

Because countries like that still have dominance between two major parties Otto Lidenbrock Jan 2020 #10

interesting janterry Jan 2020 #12

You left out the Labor Party that was a top 2 party before the Lib Dems of Blaire bigbrother05 Jan 2020 #92

Tony Blair was the longest serving Labour PM mathematic Jan 2020 #100

I stand corrected, but smaller parties often fill the numbers to reach a majority bigbrother05 Jan 2020 #115

Yup. Hortensis Jan 2020 #128

Smaller parties guarantee minority rule and make politically advantageous deals for themselves Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #131

And AOC's party would have no influence treestar Jan 2020 #137

The comment is strange Huin Jan 2020 #79

This isn't "other countries", and if she has a problem with OUR Democratic Party there are options.. George II Jan 2020 #129

It will be interesting to see if these comments hurt AOC in The primary Gothmog Jan 2020 #186

So much for the big tent bullshit huh? nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #173

NO. Cha Jan 2020 #209

Agreed. AOC is a member of the DSA. crazytown Jan 2020 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #3

It's not a bizarre comment. It's possible the party has changed even if some members have not. LonePirate Jan 2020 #4

Maybe DownriverDem Jan 2020 #13

Yeah well her candidates are losing thus she is the one that seems out of step. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #44

Yeah, anybody can defeat a 20 year incumbent and member of leadership by 15 points! LonePirate Jan 2020 #57

Given the voter turnout in the primary...no it wasn't hard. Once she won the primary she was Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #62

And it is only a two year term PatSeg Jan 2020 #66

That is the biggest complaint about her that I hear...she is using the district as a stepping stone Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #73

When Hillary was in the senate, PatSeg Jan 2020 #81

The challenge was the primary, not the general. Any D wins that area in the general. LonePirate Jan 2020 #70

It is not much of a challenge with 10% or less voting in the primary...the challenge will be can she Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #72

She wins again easily now that she's the incumbent with name ID, money and endorsements. LonePirate Jan 2020 #74

Time will tell...her opponent the first time was the Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #76

Do you have evidence she isn't? nt Gore1FL Jan 2020 #177

pretty much booley Jan 2020 #93

Excellent point!! AOC did the impossible... and will do so again!! She's a rockstar!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #105

Well, if she's not happy in our party there's a remedy for that. After all, she thinks our party.... George II Jan 2020 #89

My thought exactly LakeArenal Jan 2020 #102

Her rejection of the wonderfulness of our big tent Hortensis Jan 2020 #139

If she doesn't believe in the big tent, one of the principles of our Party, what's she doing here? George II Jan 2020 #146

Only game in town? The big tent isn't only a basic principle Hortensis Jan 2020 #148

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2020 #141

If we just lived up to our espoused values as Democrats she'd happily fit in. Gore1FL Jan 2020 #178

But then the new members should step out and form a new party. Huin Jan 2020 #94

The white man in his 70s has devoted decades to the party to make it what it is. I'm not ready.... George II Jan 2020 #109

And they can also have a lot in common. It was not a bizarre comment it was close minded and UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #174

It's is one of the major reasons for our stability. NT TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #5

Stability?! What stability? KPN Jan 2020 #87

Your reply is based in American Exceptionalism. TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #95

And that's a good thing? Meanwhile, we've got an executive branch that's moving rapidly on KPN Jan 2020 #97

It's one of the best things we have going for us. TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #98

Compared to Honduras or Argentina or treestar Jan 2020 #135

Why do the Democratic Socialists hate the Democrats? NYMinute Jan 2020 #6

One could also ask why do Democrats hate Democratic Socialists ? Autumn Jan 2020 #9

It's the DownriverDem Jan 2020 #14

So you agree that in non-two party countries, they would be in different parties. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2020 #15

Whatever happened to your Big tent Democratic party? I can see Republicans are Autumn Jan 2020 #17

AOC is saying JustAnotherGen Jan 2020 #25

Actually no...in the article AOC says their should be standards as to who can be Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #65

I agree with her. The Congressional Progressive Caucus should have the same standards as other Autumn Jan 2020 #69

You're conflating the Dem party with the CPC. nt redqueen Jan 2020 #80

AOC is saying that a big tent is a bad thing. Democrats don't say that. nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #163

The problem with the big tent is that moderate Republicans are welcome, Centrists are welcome Autumn Jan 2020 #169

Big tent means that anyone that wants to take part in an ethical fashion is Blue_true Jan 2020 #170

Nancy Pelosi reaffirms this. Any implications that we're divided are mistaken or made in bad faith. ancianita Jan 2020 #75

But that would be easy to answer...why should Democrats like a group that criticize the Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #64

Maybe because as members of the party we have every right to criticize the party?. I don't Autumn Jan 2020 #107

If you enjoy losing elections, by all means avail yourself of this 'right'...We have the right to do Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #119

Criticizing our party because we disagree with some their actions is not the reason we have Autumn Jan 2020 #121

Then let Bernie go out and do that treestar Jan 2020 #138

It is exactly why we lose elections and why we have lost members...the party is attacked on the Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #147

That's a fair question. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #106

If you must see it that way, it's because treestar Jan 2020 #136

The democratic socialists can leave our party and start their own party. Blue_true Jan 2020 #162

Because of BULLSHIT comments like this and this is the tip of the iceberg. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #175

It wasn't a comment. It was a question. Autumn Jan 2020 #197

I answered your question. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #205

No, you didn't. You were under the impression it was a comment. nt Autumn Jan 2020 #207

I say it again ... Huin Jan 2020 #96

Bad analogy NYMinute Jan 2020 #99

And more than the Republicans? treestar Jan 2020 #133

+1,000,000 nt NYMinute Jan 2020 #153

Attitudes like that are a great way to lose elections. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #7

I agree PatSeg Jan 2020 #22

Agreed Huin Jan 2020 #149

+100 Duppers Jan 2020 #188

GOP memes online keep saying Joe is a lefty socialist IronLionZion Jan 2020 #8

And the republicans Mr.Bill Jan 2020 #20

My point is we shouldn't worry about our candidate being "too liberal" IronLionZion Jan 2020 #24

How about when you are a newly elecected Democrat, you shouldn't attack other Democrats in Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #40

I totally agree. redstatebluegirl Jan 2020 #86

Very true. n/t Mr.Bill Jan 2020 #41

"And study Hebrew basket weaving until they're 45 for free." PatSeg Jan 2020 #29

A person can't care what they think. They don't think. defacto7 Jan 2020 #51

They have the media help them treestar Jan 2020 #140

+1 treestar Jan 2020 #134

Do we want to win? It is a good time to use a gentle filter when cry baby Jan 2020 #11

Does she want to make the rules who belongs Hav Jan 2020 #16

That's my question JustAnotherGen Jan 2020 #26

She is clearly showing her lack PatSeg Jan 2020 #35

Yeah, that was me as well at maybe 18 to early 20s Hav Jan 2020 #53

And that the world wasn't so black or white, PatSeg Jan 2020 #63

One wing of the Democratic Party helped win the House back in 2018 brooklynite Jan 2020 #18

And the wing that won the safe blue house seats...can't compete statewide and in some cases in any Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #36

True squirecam Jan 2020 #210

Each time AOC speaks my opinion of her diminishes. She's a divider not comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #19

She reminds me of a quote from Jim Morrison when I was her age: Mr.Bill Jan 2020 #23

I think she got too much attention PatSeg Jan 2020 #37

She has great Ideas? comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #42

Maybe I gave her too much credit PatSeg Jan 2020 #54

Yes, look how long it took women to get the vote treestar Jan 2020 #142

Sometimes it takes a log of small steps PatSeg Jan 2020 #152

"Democrats can be too big of a tent"???? Dem4Life1102 Jan 2020 #21

Why we must have standards...her standards I suppose...no thanks...Honestly, I like her less and Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #33

it's not that odd. that debate has happened here a brazillion times. ie- choice mopinko Jan 2020 #47

What's The Matter, Isn't She Getting Enough Attention Lately Me. Jan 2020 #27

You hit the nail right on the head there. comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #43

Bull OKNancy Jan 2020 #28

What makes a communist a communist? Huin Jan 2020 #155

If Bernie wants to both win and get things done as President this is obviously bad messaging BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #30

Bernie really doesn't have a record of getting things done though. comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #46

Yeah..I said "if" BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #49

I know, but I couldn't resist. comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #52

Thank you BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #56

That she would say something like that clearly means that Bernie is on board with it, IMO. nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #165

Why don't you start your own party AOC...see how many join and support you. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #31

Be careful what you ask for. Nt lostnfound Jan 2020 #45

Not worried. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #50

I am not worried either...they do more damage within the party as they are divisive. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #60

What good is she to the Democratic Party with such comments during a presidential primary and having Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #58

The country IS center left and so am I.. expanding the conversation is vital lostnfound Jan 2020 #208

Let her go ahead. We can direct resources to where they produce more results for society. nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #166

But it's THIS country. She seems to be more in favor of disruption of the democratic party. dem4decades Jan 2020 #32

For comparison, Germany has 6 major parties: DetlefK Jan 2020 #34

Interesting.. VP Biden is an established leader in the Democratic Party.. soooooooo Peacetrain Jan 2020 #38

And Wawannabe Jan 2020 #78

She thinks the Dem party is too big of a tent, so let's make the Democratic party smaller? seaglass Jan 2020 #39

"Oh God", she said with a groan Docreed2003 Jan 2020 #48

Yes. This. Skidmore Jan 2020 #126

THIS. emmaverybo Jan 2020 #179

Thank you. betsuni Jan 2020 #183

Yes, THIS. +100 Duppers Jan 2020 #191

The sooner we get proportional representation, the better. nt redqueen Jan 2020 #55

She is laying out the reasons for a possible third-party run. Doodley Jan 2020 #59

Sounds like a dog whistle to encourage Democrats to vote third party. tritsofme Jan 2020 #61

She has just disenfranchised Biden and Hillary supporters by her misrepresentations and divisionary still_one Jan 2020 #67

Unwise Bayard Jan 2020 #68

This is MY Democratic Party. I've been supporting it for decades, have worked with it for decades... George II Jan 2020 #71

+++ still_one Jan 2020 #83

In any other country we wouldn't be held hostage by a mad man while we attack good people on our own onecaliberal Jan 2020 #77

Bingo! PatSeg Jan 2020 #82

Excellent response!!! still_one Jan 2020 #84

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #85

Welcome to DU LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #88

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #90

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #91

She can leave Renew Deal Jan 2020 #101

'immense star power'? A certain rw promoted notoriety for the general electorate - sure. empedocles Jan 2020 #103

Brighter Than A Thousand Suns dalton99a Jan 2020 #160

. empedocles Jan 2020 #185

A glib showboater, as always. RelativelyJones Jan 2020 #104

She should apologize for those comments, but would be surprized if she did still_one Jan 2020 #108

It'll never happen. Here's a measure of her attitude. Instead of letting a childish thing go.... George II Jan 2020 #110

Well would you look at that melman Jan 2020 #116

Thanks for that. BTW, I missed you, were you ill? George II Jan 2020 #117

Funny melman Jan 2020 #118

Who's accusing you of following them around? ehrnst Jan 2020 #143

Hey, you should be happy that I'm concerned about your well-being. After all we don't have M4A yet. George II Jan 2020 #171

har har melman Jan 2020 #182

Careful - Those pearls will break if clutched too hard... ehrnst Jan 2020 #190

Are you sure it's not a straw man? melman Jan 2020 #195

Lulz. You still respond when you have nothing to say. ehrnst Jan 2020 #196

Actually, I see the poster as campaigning FOR a democrat. Blue_true Jan 2020 #168

That's nice melman Jan 2020 #184

Welcome to America, Missy. But just so you know, even parliamentary systems COMPROMISE... Hekate Jan 2020 #111

Missy? melman Jan 2020 #112

I'm old. So shoot me, melman. Or just address my point about multi-party compromises. Hekate Jan 2020 #113

That gives you a license to be sexist? melman Jan 2020 #114

Oh melman, melman... Hekate Jan 2020 #120

Okay melman Jan 2020 #123

One last chance to address my point about compromise... Hekate Jan 2020 #124

That's what I thought melman Jan 2020 #125

Now it's the "I know you are, but what am I?" mode of reposte. ehrnst Jan 2020 #145

(....looking up the definition of "reposte") George II Jan 2020 #150

..... ehrnst Jan 2020 #151

... sheshe2 Jan 2020 #172

Here's a tip for you melman Jan 2020 #181

Were you expecting a serious response?! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #154

When one is retreating in defense, one doesn't want any response, let alone a serious one. ehrnst Jan 2020 #189

.... ehrnst Jan 2020 #193

That's a rather silly, insulting strawman. ehrnst Jan 2020 #144

While I'm not supporting Biden in the primaries, AOC has attacked a Democrat in a disgusting way Polybius Jan 2020 #122

AOC should slow her roll a bit. BjornSig Jan 2020 #127

Her facts are on the money and she is one of the few who make a point of ... marble falls Jan 2020 #167

Why did NyMag run this now? Why not the week of Dec 23? Mersky Jan 2020 #130

But they are in this country treestar Jan 2020 #132

She wants to form or run in another party ebbie15644 Jan 2020 #156

Keep talking like that AOC, and you'll be out of a career. kstewart33 Jan 2020 #157

Working on committees is apparently something that keeps her from doing what she would rather ehrnst Jan 2020 #192

Maybe she should ask "Auntie Maxine" what it was like being a newbie 30 years ago... Hekate Jan 2020 #199

..... ehrnst Jan 2020 #200

Oh, so Nancy and other powerful Dems are conspiring against her. kstewart33 Jan 2020 #204

I think she's right hurl Jan 2020 #158

She thinks Bernie turned Vermont blue single-handedly. betsuni Jan 2020 #159

AOC is free to start her own political party and give up the resources and infrastructure of ours. n Blue_true Jan 2020 #161

Some big talk from AOC jrandom421 Jan 2020 #164

She thinks she always knows best. Attacking Democrats is never a good strategy ask Sanders. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #176

This does Joe a huge favor. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2020 #180

Joe does not want to be tied to the squad in the general election Gothmog Jan 2020 #187

Ita a true statement. Joe941 Jan 2020 #194

Yes melman Jan 2020 #198

Just like her mentor, using the Democratic Party to further their political ambitions. still_one Jan 2020 #201

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #202

Dumb... Blue_Tires Jan 2020 #203

AOC may have helped Joe win the nomination Gothmog Jan 2020 #206