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redqueen

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9. There's another OP where he's called "honest Joe" in the title.

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 11:25 AM

Jan 2020

The contrast and implications are interesting.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Biden Again Falsely Claims He Opposed Iraq War [View all] babylonsister Jan 2020 OP

politician gobbledegook, just what Americans don't want anymore janterry Jan 2020 #1

Is the No Malarkey tour over? n/t delisen Jan 2020 #2

Good point. zentrum Jan 2020 #7

+1 Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #14

They'll be serving leftover Malarkey sandwiches for a week after that one. Aaron Pereira Jan 2020 #58

It's the Come On Man I Never Said No Malarkey tour. A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2020 #84

Why can't Biden just admit he was wrong on Iraq War Resolution vote? at140 Jan 2020 #3

Would not easily forgive. zentrum Jan 2020 #8

Admitting truth is not better than not admitting truth? at140 Jan 2020 #10

"But it was a different era, and no one could see the future consequences." Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #15

Most wrongly assumed getting rid of Saddam would stabilize M-East at140 Jan 2020 #19

That's the problem I have in giving Biden a pass on Iraq. Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #21

And, by the way, GWB II exploited the pain of many people. Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #23

GWB-43? The dumbest president in a century! at140 Jan 2020 #24

My relatives are tapped into that whole Wall Street money making churn. Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #25

I can't buy that. Crunchy Frog Jan 2020 #69

It was not a different era, and MANY people saw the consequences. redqueen Jan 2020 #20

Only the strongly anti-war people did, majority of Americans did not! at140 Jan 2020 #22

We're talking about legislators whose job it is to put a check on the president's powers. redqueen Jan 2020 #27

I agree about the quagmire scenario at140 Jan 2020 #33

SIGH...so I see you say you will vote blue, GREAT...but so what you are saying Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #76

He seems to be very averse to admitting mistakes loyalsister Jan 2020 #32

Be wary of people who refuse to admit mistakes and change! at140 Jan 2020 #74

He's doing this because he is a notoriously undisciplined candidate BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #4

It's a mystery as to why he says one thing one week and goes with the opposite the next. Autumn Jan 2020 #5

Will it matter? Since their leader does the same thing? Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #16

They ignore that their leaders does it. For example nude photos of one first lady all over the web Autumn Jan 2020 #17

In the days of micro-targeting it really matters. Terry_M Jan 2020 #59

+1 betsuni Jan 2020 #61

Kickin' Faux pas Jan 2020 #6

There's another OP where he's called "honest Joe" in the title. redqueen Jan 2020 #9

I noticed that. Voltaire2 Jan 2020 #13

SMH He certainly has the name recognition, but Ferrets are Cool Jan 2020 #11

Doesn't seem to be hurting him. bearsfootball516 Jan 2020 #28

It will hurt hi in the general booley Jan 2020 #34

It didn't hurt Clinton nor Kerry and it won't hurt Biden...I wonder do you thing Sanders war vote Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #38

Lol BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #43

Again? progressoid Jan 2020 #12

Is his memory failing him? His record is there for everyone to see. jalan48 Jan 2020 #18

why is this even an issue or being brought up?? I do not look for perfection in.. samnsara Jan 2020 #26

Because he's twisting the truth and it's so babylonsister Jan 2020 #30

So you say but twisting the truth is the Biden oppositions habit...I would have to read any Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #48

I don't look for perfection either. I also don't look for a candidate who is always backtracking Autumn Jan 2020 #77

Could you imagine where we would be if Obama had chosen someone like Ron Wyden as his VP? LonePirate Jan 2020 #29

I sincerely doubt we would have gay marriage or the ACA. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #39

Considering SCOTUS gave us the former and safely blue Oregon helped give us the ACA ... LonePirate Jan 2020 #45

Biden took the rust belt for Obama...your guy wouldn't have. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #46

You're funny. Obama would have romped in '08 with a zombie as a running mate. LonePirate Jan 2020 #47

Not necessarily true...but think what you want. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #49

If you say so. I worked the campaign. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #72

So much for his judgment and "experience." yellowwoodII Jan 2020 #31

Imagine if Hillary had said that. StevieM Jan 2020 #35

+1 nt backtoblue Jan 2020 #36

Yeah because there were no desperate attempts to make her IWR vote a thing in 2016 BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #42

Looks like most Biden supporters won't defend him on this wellst0nev0ter Jan 2020 #37

17 years ago during a different time...why would we bother? It won't hurt Biden. Because those Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #40

There's nothing to defend BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #41

It is an example of a stupid blunder. Politically stupid anc a foriegn policy disaster. Buzz cook Jan 2020 #63

Look below; it appears the OP oversimplifies things treestar Jan 2020 #81

This is not up for debate wellst0nev0ter Jan 2020 #82

From the moment it began is later treestar Jan 2020 #44

Exactly, the vote was in October, before the investigators were Iraq karynnj Jan 2020 #85

Biden and others DID oppose going into Iraq and demanded "proof", that is when Blue_true Jan 2020 #50

Thanks elleng Jan 2020 #51

I lived that period. Democrats, including Biden gave Bush hell and delayed his Blue_true Jan 2020 #52

So did I, live during that period. elleng Jan 2020 #53

Me too and read a few books about it. It was Bush's war plain and simple emulatorloo Jan 2020 #54

The issue is people are so intent on trashing Hillary and Biden Blue_true Jan 2020 #79

A lot of people are using hindsight here. boomer_wv Jan 2020 #55

Good points. But Biden, Clinton and others demanded proof from Bush, even as the public beat the Blue_true Jan 2020 #57

Your last sentence. Exactly. betsuni Jan 2020 #60

Exactly. boomer_wv Jan 2020 #62

I remember how after the invasion Bush was surprised everybody wasn't the same type of betsuni Jan 2020 #64

He can personally oppose a war but vote for it NYMinute Jan 2020 #56

I guess another question is, why are you doing this? George II Jan 2020 #65

No he didn't. Why persist in this here? George II Jan 2020 #66

Two posts saying same thing in 5 minutes? USALiberal Jan 2020 #67

Did I break any rules? George II Jan 2020 #68

Wow, this is a really snarky thread PatSeg Jan 2020 #70

He got caught with a simple fact check... how did he think he could get away with it? Joe941 Jan 2020 #71

Others simply call the source "corporate owned" when they get caught in a simple fact check. ehrnst Jan 2020 #73

Sanders was also wrong, possibly lying, saying that Biden was one of those who LED the attack karynnj Jan 2020 #75

Your recollections are on par with what I remember. Blue_true Jan 2020 #80

good let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Jan 2020 #78

We need a forum for Biden lies that won't die. Hortensis Jan 2020 #83