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booley

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75. IF you know who said it maybe dont so dismissive
Mon Jan 6, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jan 2020
so the states we need are MI, WI and PA...and the 'Democratic' wing of the party won't win those states for us...


One of the states you mention is Michigan.
And I am talking about Paul Wellstone, an arch progressive, not really all that different from Sanders in his positions. From Michigan.

Think about that for a second, please.

And again let me restate my point, the Democratic wing of the Democratic party " was a warning, specifically about the Democratic party losing its way to big money and corporate interests, and looking after the top rather than the bottom.

Wellstone’s words carried weight because he had won.

In 1990, at a time when the Democratic Leadership Council was using every corporate dollar it could find to drag the Democratic Party to the pro-business right, Wellstone came on the national political radar as an unabashed progressive populist who declared himself in solidarity with the causes of union workers, family farmers, peace activists, abortion rights campaigners and racial and ethnic minorities. He took a cue from filmmaker Michael Moore’s anticorporate masterpiece, Roger & Me, and cut a television commercial that had him chasing after his Republican opponent, millionaire Senator Rudy Boschwitz, seeking a debate. That November, Wellstone was the only Democratic challenger to upset a Republican incumbent. It was a huge win for what Wellstone called “the democratic wing of the Democratic Party.” And if party insiders tended to dismiss the lesson of Wellstone’s victory, grassroots Democrats did not.


https://www.thenation.com/article/paul-wellstone/

You being personally offended if not as relevant as you appear to think it is.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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What if Bernie wins? [View all] kentuck Jan 2020 OP
then america loses.... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Joe941 Jan 2020 #2
Yeah sure, remember Bernie lost big to Hillary. comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #3
thanks in no small part to.... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #7
Agreed left-of-center2012 Jan 2020 #4
nobody will win over the core..... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #8
No Democrat is going to win over trump voters booley Jan 2020 #44
Will Sanders get Russian support this time? delisen Jan 2020 #61
sorry did you have anything to your argument booley Jan 2020 #74
History says its the centrist candidate who who is at risk booley Jan 2020 #43
Sanders 2020 McGovern 1972 question everything Jan 2020 #60
You mean America wins. Biden is the one who would lose to tRump... Bernie would demolish him... InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #81
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No it hasn't ...the question has been why doesn't the 'democratic' wing of the party appeal to more Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #26
Indeed; AOC ran in a place where a fire hydrant would win if it had a "D" next to it on the ballot LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #29
That is right and as long as those who seem to think they have their own wing of the party can only Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #53
I am in the Democratic wing of the Democratic party booley Jan 2020 #45
I know who said it...and it is an insult as if some Democrats or more pure Democrats or it has been Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #50
IF you know who said it maybe dont so dismissive booley Jan 2020 #75
Again, there is no such thing as the Democratic wing of the party...and anyone can be wrong...the Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #79
She beat an incumbent who phoned it in. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #69
So in other words if you dont' take votes for granted.... booley Jan 2020 #77
Depends on where they are running obviously. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #78
Yes and OAC should consider this herself...she shouldn't take her voters for granted while persueing Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #80
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I will support the nominee of the party Gothmog Jan 2020 #46
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This time next year, we will be preparing to inaugurate President... dware Jan 2020 #25
WITHOUT A DOUBT JOE!! GOTTA LOVE THE SOUND OF PRESIDENT SANDERS!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #82
Ask again after Super Tuesday, OK? MineralMan Jan 2020 #10
yeah, possible but not bloody likely.... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #83
Then DownriverDem Jan 2020 #11
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Then all of my time and resources will go to local races. TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #13
Point to anyone who has said they wouldn't vote for Sanders as the nominee... brooklynite Jan 2020 #14
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Me too...I will vote blue no matter who. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #23
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How do you figure? ancianita Jan 2020 #64
Bernie is the absolute caricature of the left in the minds of independents and the right LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #68
He'd lose like McGovern did treestar Jan 2020 #18
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I did say that at the time. 2016 was a holding action, to safeguard the Supreme Court. It failed, LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #72
We don't like it when Dotard does it treestar Jan 2020 #73
I'll fight like hell to get him elected but boy are the Russiapublicans going to have a lot to work UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #19
He can't can't win...he doesn't have enough AA support and will start losing in earnest when we hit Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #21
With the large number of candidates still in the race... kentuck Jan 2020 #22
He could, possibly, win the nomination; he cannot possibly win the election LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #24
I share that opinion Rorey Jan 2020 #27
I will too; the fact that the DNC has foisted him on us does not change my commitment LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #28
What legislation? BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #35
I'm saying a "socialist" label does not mean a lot when Congress passes legislation. kentuck Jan 2020 #42
So far, a majority of Bernie's legislative accomplishments NYMinute Jan 2020 #89
How was Obama looked at back in January of the primary year with Clinton? lunasun Jan 2020 #30
I have not seen a single Biden supporter who hasn't declared their intention MineralMan Jan 2020 #31
He won't be our party's nominee. He has loyal and loud followers... just not enough of them. NurseJackie Jan 2020 #32
I think Carter's presidency is the best model to look at. Hortensis Jan 2020 #33
LOL BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #34
Better question is "what happens when Bernie loses?" nt NYMinute Jan 2020 #36
Oh, we know the answer to that; we've seen it before LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #37
I am pretty tired of the Bernie bashing on this site so I appreciate this post jimlup Jan 2020 #39
I am tired of the Bernie bashing too: LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #48
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What if pigs had wings? PubliusEnigma Jan 2020 #54
Then republicans would work with us and "Nothing will fundamentally change" CentralMass Jan 2020 #59
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I agree with most people thinking... Mike Nelson Jan 2020 #57
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Why worry about something that isn't going to happen? Blue_Tires Jan 2020 #92
If he wins the primary he becomes the nominee, if he's the nominee he becomes the president. Autumn Jan 2020 #93
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