Democratic Primaries

PatSeg

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70. Hardly "spin"

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 02:11 PM

Jan 2020

She is an articulate, intelligent journalist and commentator. When she is right, I'll give her credit. There were many times pre-Trump when I found her insufferable. Its possible that post-Trump, that may be the case again, but any republican or former republican who speaks truth and makes sense will get the appropriate acknowledgement from me.

Michael Steel, Rick Wilson, Steve Schmidt, George Conway, Nicolle Wallace, David Jolly, and even occasionally George Will have all been important truth tellers in these dark times. Perhaps when this is over, everyone will go back to their respective corners and the old ideological fights will resume, but right now where there is common ground, we should unite. We can take up those fights again once the danger has passed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Jennifer Rubin, WaPo: The media finally discovered Joe Biden [View all] highplainsdem Jan 2020 OP

They are finally catching up with the voter.. Peacetrain Jan 2020 #1

Which "the voter" doth thou speaketh? DemocracyMouse Jan 2020 #21

The voters that want the best shot of defeating that cancer - Trump. nt. BlueIdaho Jan 2020 #35

Warren is the best shot at beating Trump. DemocracyMouse Jan 2020 #57

No EW is Not. Cha Jan 2020 #84

It doesn't work like that LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #87

The lure of a return to normalcy is powerful. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2020 #2

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #22

Obama was no Damn corporatist. And yeah, I doubt there are five Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #39

Oh and how about we beat Trump. That is my concern. As for retiring poor under Biden well that is Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #40

And this, my fellow DUers, is how you advance the cause of your favorite candidate. Mr.Bill Jan 2020 #3

A truth lost on the "movement" nt NYMinute Jan 2020 #23

Amen. ramen Jan 2020 #31

Getting love from a conservative pundit doesn't work for me. aikoaiko Jan 2020 #77

There it is! Go Joe Go! redstateblues Jan 2020 #4

K&R betsuni Jan 2020 #5

Part of it could be that he's a mostly-known quantity. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #6

Biden is a patriot, smart, and has class and good judgment bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #7

He is a gentleman. Also, very wise and seasoned to say the least. Dream Girl Jan 2020 #20

As I said a couple of days ago. usaf-vet Jan 2020 #36

This is what the other candidates are going to have to overcome BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #8

Huh? hurl Jan 2020 #9

The media has been predicting Joe's demise since he announced redstateblues Jan 2020 #12

This! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #13

Jennifer Rubin is actually correct, as it happens. The media as a whole so desperately wants ... Hekate Jan 2020 #15

I think so too, Hekate Desert grandma Jan 2020 #26

THIS. And he will stabilize our foreign policy and relations. Has in-depth grasp of geopolitical emmaverybo Jan 2020 #58

Truth. emmaverybo Jan 2020 #59

You ever see Rachel interview him...or Chris Hayes? No you don't. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #41

Same here. They were despicable day after the first debate. Real constant Biden bashing fest emmaverybo Jan 2020 #60

"Voters" are delusional, then. maxsolomon Jan 2020 #10

Everything is relative PatSeg Jan 2020 #17

So sick of the Obama bashing. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #46

Same here PatSeg Jan 2020 #48

He was better than we deserved... if we had his back in 10 and 12, a Democrat Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #52

And Merrick Garland PatSeg Jan 2020 #54

Very true...and many who sent message votes now Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #55

Show me where I bashed Obama maxsolomon Jan 2020 #65

Perhaps I misunderstood...but the we can't go back ..back to what? Pre -Trump was Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #83

YOU want to fight battles that can be won with leaders you can trust. maxsolomon Jan 2020 #66

Everyone has lives to live PatSeg Jan 2020 #69

Does one have to throw up every time there is a positive Biden thread? NYMinute Jan 2020 #27

One has to try to take the wind out of supporter's sails or rain on the parade lest there be a hint emmaverybo Jan 2020 #61

You know, I wasn't even addressing Biden or his qualifications. maxsolomon Jan 2020 #63

Sorry Max. I meant to address NYminute's concern, not your comments. emmaverybo Jan 2020 #74

Obama was a great president so Perhaps some could stop acting like 2008 thru Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #45

Good point PatSeg Jan 2020 #49

It makes me want to hurl when people talk as if the Obama administrarion was some sort Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #51

The only hell that I remember PatSeg Jan 2020 #53

I agree and it is a horrible tactic...and those who do it will only hurt their candidate. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #56

What voters do they think they PatSeg Jan 2020 #62

This is true. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #81

I'm not Obama bashing, or Biden bashing. maxsolomon Jan 2020 #64

I would happily return to Obama's term...and it was not different than Clintons...the GOP are a Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #80

Where's the Obama bashing? progressoid Jan 2020 #71

No way the Dotard has not made everything treestar Jan 2020 #91

Excellent piece hpd. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #11

So, another republican columnist likes Biden tiredtoo Jan 2020 #14

Jennifer Rubin PatSeg Jan 2020 #50

Nice spin but she is a republican, just not a trumplican NT. tiredtoo Jan 2020 #68

Hardly "spin" PatSeg Jan 2020 #70

Ok if you want to agree with all the republicans you mentioned, go for it! EOM tiredtoo Jan 2020 #73

Apparently PatSeg Jan 2020 #75

Apparently not. tiredtoo Jan 2020 #78

Oh no PatSeg Jan 2020 #79

The enemy of my enemy is my friend redstateblues Jan 2020 #76

Battle for the Soul of America NBachers Jan 2020 #16

Excellent article PatSeg Jan 2020 #18

If she was saying anything negative, we would be told not to post rightwing trash, but because its vsrazdem Jan 2020 #19

It is from WaPo which is not a RW publication nt NYMinute Jan 2020 #25

Well that may be, but I am always hearing negative comments about her on this board, until it is vsrazdem Jan 2020 #28

She is a regular contributor on MSNBC NYMinute Jan 2020 #29

And a life long Republican who likes to tell Democrats whats up with their candidates, LOL. And as vsrazdem Jan 2020 #30

So what? Are we so fickle or fragile that we won't listen to a sensible, moderate republican NYMinute Jan 2020 #32

By that standard, I'd expect you to favor candidates who are lifelong Democrats. highplainsdem Jan 2020 #33

Normalcy, decency and experience trump a trillion dollar plan after trillion dollar plan NYMinute Jan 2020 #24

A conservative's opinion piece left-of-center2012 Jan 2020 #34

media still pursing their "TO THE DINERS!" "reporting", like a busted Roomba stuck in the corner EveHammond13 Jan 2020 #37

LOL at the Roomba-stuck-in-a-corner comparison! Perfect! highplainsdem Jan 2020 #38

Rubin: I'd prefer John Kasich or Mitt, but Biden will do. RhodeIslandOne Jan 2020 #42

Great editorial Gothmog Jan 2020 #43

Jennifer Rubin is a Republican Quixote1818 Jan 2020 #44

So was Warren at one time... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #47

Rubin being one NOW says far more than Warren being one in the 80s or 90s Blue_Adept Jan 2020 #67

She was one until 96 by her own words...just think all through the Reagan years and GOP attacks Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #82

Fail at your "distraction".. she's a NEVER Cha Jan 2020 #85

Which does not affect her point treestar Jan 2020 #92

Biden builds primary strategy around general election Gothmog Jan 2020 #72

Sure! Biden's always spoken to rescuing America from the threat Hortensis Jan 2020 #86

Great article, Gothmog. Biden does look to be thinking bigger than his colleagues who R B Garr Jan 2020 #89

Oooh, Rubin really has their number here: R B Garr Jan 2020 #88

Biden in many ways appears to be in a stronger position now than he was when he entered the race, Gothmog Jan 2020 #90