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In reply to the discussion: Sanders Campaign Calls on Biden--and All 2020 Democrats--to Reject Any Help From Shadowy Super PACs [View all]Gothmog
(182,024 posts)47. Shadow group provides Sanders super PAC support he scorns
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Bernie Sanders says he doesnt want a super PAC. Instead, he has Our Revolution, a nonprofit political organization he founded that functions much the same as one.
Like a super PAC, which is shorthand for super political action committee, Our Revolution can raise unlimited sums from wealthy patrons that dwarf the limits faced by candidates and conventional PACs. Unlike a super PAC, however, the group doesnt have to disclose its donors a stream of revenue commonly referred to as dark money.
Now, with less than one month to go before the Iowa caucuses, Our Revolution appears to be skirting campaign finance law, which forbids groups founded by federal candidates and officeholders from using large donations to finance federal election activity, including Sanders 2020 bid. .
Our Revolution has taken in nearly $1 million from donors who gave more than the limits and whose identities it hasnt fully disclosed, according to tax filings for 2016, 2017 and 2018. Much of it came from those who contributed six-figure sums.
It wont have to publicly reveal its 2019 fundraising until after this years presidential election. And money it raises between now and then wont have to be disclosed until the following year.
Any entity established by a federal officeholder can only raise and spend money under federal contribution limits for any activities in connection with a federal election, said Paul S. Ryan, a campaign finance expert and attorney with the good-government group Common Cause. Our Revolution was undoubtedly established by Sen. Sanders, is subject to these laws and is seemingly in violation of them.
Like a super PAC, which is shorthand for super political action committee, Our Revolution can raise unlimited sums from wealthy patrons that dwarf the limits faced by candidates and conventional PACs. Unlike a super PAC, however, the group doesnt have to disclose its donors a stream of revenue commonly referred to as dark money.
Now, with less than one month to go before the Iowa caucuses, Our Revolution appears to be skirting campaign finance law, which forbids groups founded by federal candidates and officeholders from using large donations to finance federal election activity, including Sanders 2020 bid. .
Our Revolution has taken in nearly $1 million from donors who gave more than the limits and whose identities it hasnt fully disclosed, according to tax filings for 2016, 2017 and 2018. Much of it came from those who contributed six-figure sums.
It wont have to publicly reveal its 2019 fundraising until after this years presidential election. And money it raises between now and then wont have to be disclosed until the following year.
Any entity established by a federal officeholder can only raise and spend money under federal contribution limits for any activities in connection with a federal election, said Paul S. Ryan, a campaign finance expert and attorney with the good-government group Common Cause. Our Revolution was undoubtedly established by Sen. Sanders, is subject to these laws and is seemingly in violation of them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Sanders Campaign Calls on Biden--and All 2020 Democrats--to Reject Any Help From Shadowy Super PACs [View all]
Uncle Joe
Oct 2019
OP
Why doesn't he just run his own campaign and stop calling on other campaigns to do things?
George II
Oct 2019
#2
Nope. Why should I "rebut" it? Plus it's not an "argument", it's bordering on a demand.
George II
Oct 2019
#8
No comment at all on the purpose of SuperPACs or their damage to representative government?
Magoo48
Jan 2020
#54
Especially considering Millions of $$ of help certain Democratic candidates recieved from
ehrnst
Jan 2020
#63
Stop with the pledges! It's a cheap way to bait people. They remind me of the nonsense that Tulsi
Politicub
Oct 2019
#5
Or we could stop with the hand-wringing and cheap stunts. That's all pledges are. Stunts.
Politicub
Oct 2019
#9
Our Revolution which was founded by Bernie is a 501c4 dark money group that takes unlimited, undiscl
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#49
You mean like staying quiet when a GOP superpac is spending millions running ads on behalf of
ehrnst
Jan 2020
#65
Wish Sanders would reject any help from shadowy help, campaign workers, sources - in BS campaign
empedocles
Oct 2019
#10
Why doesn't Mr Shakir call for the primaries winner to drop out of General Elections upon victory?
beastie boy
Oct 2019
#14
Sanders is flailing like no other candidate. Sorry to see what he is doing on his way out.
TidalWave46
Oct 2019
#16
"Shadowy..." I guess that's in the eye of the beholder. As well as "rejecting any help..."
ehrnst
Jan 2020
#59
Hah hah. No one fools you! I couldn't articulate what I found so ridiculous and yet pretentiously
emmaverybo
Oct 2019
#26
It's a symptom. It's a sign of a campaign that's in trouble. BS has reached his high-water mark...
NurseJackie
Oct 2019
#32
Well put. "It's just more rainbows and unicorns and pie-in-the-sky unfunded promises..."
emmaverybo
Oct 2019
#33
Do you believe the big money people/institutions here in good old America don't have power!?
Uncle Joe
Oct 2019
#35
Now legal experts tell @AP the group appears to be violating campaign finance law
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#50
So they're saying that Bernie's "Our Revolution" group is violating the law...
NurseJackie
Jan 2020
#56
I don't know their legal status (PAC, Super PAC, 501c, LLC, whatever) but I wonder....
George II
Oct 2019
#27
All good points. I for one am glad Biden is doing this. President Obama did the same thing, and we
still_one
Oct 2019
#31
NO. President Obama released very quickly that wasn't the way to go. Until we take back control,
still_one
Oct 2019
#29
Thanx Uncle Joe for bringin this to light! Bernie shows once again hes the 1 true Democratic leader
InAbLuEsTaTe
Oct 2019
#34
I s'pose a third-tier candidate is in a good position to instruct the first-placers on campaigning.
LanternWaste
Oct 2019
#44
Don't forget National Nurses United, flush with dark money, and a few other smaller Super PACs.
George II
Jan 2020
#57
Hey Bernie tell us about justice Democrats and our revolution in regard to super pacs
still_one
Jan 2020
#52
I suspect now that this is coming out about Super PACs are indeed supporting Sanders' campaign....
George II
Jan 2020
#58