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The Valley Below

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37. And both were named Sec. of State by Barack Obama.

Reply to HerbChestnut (Reply #36)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 06:17 PM

Jan 2020

And Biden was named VP.

You have it wrong.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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With conflict between the U.S. and Iran escalating, Biden's support of the Iraq war is a liability. [View all] HerbChestnut Jan 2020 OP

Hoo boy! George II Jan 2020 #1

Come on, George. You're a smart guy. HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #6

Yes, I am a smart guy. I know what this is all about: George II Jan 2020 #8

That's not what this is about. Sorry. HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #10

And yet you don't even mention your candidate in that OP. I get that, too. George II Jan 2020 #12

Because we have 13(14?) other candidates... HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #35

Sanders was in the house and he doesn't have clean hands on this as you know...been posted here Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #39

You could have easily said in your title, "With conflict between the U.S. and Iran escalating... George II Jan 2020 #43

Are you trying to lecture me on positive campaigning? HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #55

I'm not lecturing you on anything. I'm just pointing out, since you decided to single out Biden.... George II Jan 2020 #62

If this were a board where rational conversation occurred, I might agree with you. HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #63

Dontcha know?! Joe can do no wrong...only Bernie must be condemned for even the SLIGHTEST infraction InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #83

But if he is the nominee you will not only vote for him but loudly support him, right? Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #77

Obviously. Vote blue no matter who. HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #78

Concerned are you, so I have no reason to be in general? Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #79

Ever see so much bullshit in your life? Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #76

It'll be fine. Loki Liesmith Jan 2020 #2

Only with those who won't vote for a Democrat anyway: right-wing thugs and left-wing puritans LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #3

Bernie dropping in the polls again, is he? Squinch Jan 2020 #4

Bazinga! George II Jan 2020 #5

ROFL :) Sloumeau Jan 2020 #7

I hear Warren is back leading him in poll-never could figure out why the left would choose Sanders Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #41

If you remember, Warren was actually leading Sanders in national polling until... Sloumeau Jan 2020 #44

he sure is so Bernie Bros go on the attack against Biden. trueblue2007 Jan 2020 #14

I don't have a problem with Bernie. I'll happily vote for him if he's the candidate. But I am Squinch Jan 2020 #16

Bernie says he is the only candidate who voted to oppose the Iraq war. Is this a liability for beastie boy Jan 2020 #9

Correct me if I'm wrong, but... HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #13

That's right. And no one but Bernie was there to vote against it beastie boy Jan 2020 #17

The Iraq war started in 2003, so that's 17 years. And you may have heard that Iraq is in the news... HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #20

... LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #22

Is there a video of him giving speeches on the Senate floor in support of the invasion? I doubt it. George II Jan 2020 #21

Couldn't find video, but there's always Senate records! HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #48

what year was this again? samnsara Jan 2020 #32

Bernie boomer_wv Jan 2020 #11

Yep. redqueen Jan 2020 #19

And it should be yellowwoodII Jan 2020 #15

It is not a liability NYMinute Jan 2020 #18

My question is, *should* they care? HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #25

good lord talk about rehashing old shit... samnsara Jan 2020 #33

The focus is on getting rid of Trump. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #23

Quite clearly that is not the focus of some and we know who they are. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #73

I don't think it's a political liability. TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #24

Doesn't matter, if Biden is the nominee you support him in order to get rid of Trump. Thomas Hurt Jan 2020 #26

If it's not a liability, why does Joe keep repeating he was against it from the start MichMan Jan 2020 #27

Do you really believe Senator vote for only things they are for? Maybe he felt unity after we were Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #53

Then he ought to just say that MichMan Jan 2020 #65

Biden's vote will play very well. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #28

Sure you're on the right forum? HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #29

I'd ask you the same question. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #34

John Kerry lost his election. Obama hammered HRC on her Iraq war vote during the 2008 primary. HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #36

And both were named Sec. of State by Barack Obama. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #37

Oh and HRC also lost her GE against Trump. HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #38

After beating Bernie Sanders by 4 million votes, since you bring it up. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #42

Bazinga! George II Jan 2020 #60

And Bernie lost to HRC by millions redstateblues Jan 2020 #103

Sen. Kennedy voted for it too... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #46

I suggest you you check out Morning Consult about the Democratic Party... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #50

Oh gosh. This again. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #30

Amen, LakeArenal :) eom Sloumeau Jan 2020 #49

so because of this you let trump win?? samnsara Jan 2020 #31

Are you saying that none of our other candidates can beat him? HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #40

Hell yes...Biden is the only one who can win the EC in the states we need to win. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #47

Well, we'll have to disagree on that one then. HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #51

President Biden...it sounds so reassuring ...get used to it my friend...hehe Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #58

Glass Houses...my friend. He voted to take us to war in Afghanistan...a terrible mistake...should Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #45

Totally different. HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #61

Bernie says she was right and he was wrong...that it was a mistake...however ... war is war...I Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #70

Oh, it's very different from Biden's situation. HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #92

How about this? ehrnst Jan 2020 #91

When push came to shove, Bernie did not support military action in Iraq. HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #93

I simply pointed out his votes for military action in Iraq. ehrnst Jan 2020 #94

Good catch...I forgot this if I ever knew about it. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #97

Distinctions lacking relevant differences are not differences. Just pretense. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #95

The liability is Bernie Sanders hiring Jill Stein supporter Briana Joy Gray, and Hillary hating Davi still_one Jan 2020 #52

It bothers me that he worked on a resolution to bring more democratic senators Politicub Jan 2020 #54

Yup, for sure. HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #56

This misrepresents why Biden, Kerry, and HRC and other Democratic Senators supported the resolution. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #57

Avoid a war by authorizing military force... HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #66

Perhaps not to you. It certainly does to the foreign policy experts in our party The Valley Below Jan 2020 #67

smh... HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #68

Right back at you. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #69

That is not true...Biden wanted a different bill...Biden and the rest were lied to just like we were Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #71

Joe Biden Is The Only Candidate Fit To Contest Trump In What Is Now A Foreign Policy Election Gothmog Jan 2020 #59

Biden's Iraq war vote and bankruptcy bill were the deal breakers for me Fiendish Thingy Jan 2020 #64

So? He is he is the front runner so I guess you are in the minority...and let me tell you. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #74

I'm in the minority? Biden voters are in the minority... Fiendish Thingy Jan 2020 #75

So far...Biden beats all the candidates...after months of attacks like this one and by media... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #96

NEWS FLASH..this Iraq war thing...IS BAKED IN. Fucking YAWN already. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #72

I remember it so well: Joe Biden was the one, the only, Democratic who so voted. Unforgivable. Hekate Jan 2020 #80

He's the only one currently running to who did, so... HerbChestnut Jan 2020 #81

Awwww. Thanks for your input though. Hekate Jan 2020 #82

And the vote was: Want an incompetently-managed clusterfuck of an endless war in Iraq? Yes or No. betsuni Jan 2020 #88

I think that's possible. David__77 Jan 2020 #84

(IMHO) I don't really think this has much effect stopdiggin Jan 2020 #85

Hillary Clinton voted for the Iraq war and still won the primary. Can Joe Biden? Gothmog Jan 2020 #86

TY! Duppers Jan 2020 #89

This attack on Joe Biden is so very weak and stale Gothmog Jan 2020 #99

I love Bernie but support Biden Duppers Jan 2020 #100

It takes some complex mental gymnastics to reach that conclusion. ahoysrcsm Jan 2020 #87

There is another Candidate who has had problematic Iraq votes ehrnst Jan 2020 #90

What carries 9 tons of bombs and costs $1.5 trillion? Bernie's favorite weapon, the F-35 LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #98

So much for that... Scurrilous Jan 2020 #101

The problem is that while Iran may (or may not) stand down The Valley Below Jan 2020 #102