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Gothmog

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15. I was amused by the article cited in that thread
Wed Jan 8, 2020, 07:33 PM
Jan 2020

The amusing article cited in the OP of that thread does a great job of showing how sanders and McGovern are alike


McGovern entered KELO-TV’s studios to declare his candidacy for the 1972 Democratic presidential nomination. To call McGovern a dark horse candidate for the 1972 nomination would be an understatement. In August, Vegas oddsmaker Jimmy “The Greek” Snyder gave McGovern scant 200-to-1 odds of securing the Democratic nomination. Heading into the election year, McGovern’s poll numbers sat in the single digits.....

But the McGovern campaign began falling apart almost immediately after McGovern secured the nomination. At the Democratic National Convention, McGovern didn’t give his acceptance speech until nearly three in the morning. Making matters worse, McGovern and his advisers selected Senator Thomas Eagleton, an anti-abortion Catholic, as his running mate in a sop to the party’s more socially conservative wing. Though Eagleton had assured McGovern that there were no skeletons in his closet, it soon leaked that Eagleton had undergone electroshock therapy, and, after initially pledging his support for Eagleton, McGovern removed him from the ticket, a turn of events that made McGovern look both incompetent and cruel.

Perhaps the deepest damage to McGovern’s campaign came not from its own ineptitude, but from the candidate’s fellow Democrats. Early in the primaries, an adviser for Hubert Humphrey, one of McGovern’s main opponents for the nomination, promised, “We are going to show that McGovern is a radical, just like Goldwater was in 1964.” Keeping that promise, Humphrey claimed during a televised debate prior to the California primary that McGovern’s Demogrant plan would hike taxes on a middle class family making $12,000 by more than $400. The number wasn’t remotely true. According to both private calculations by Nixon’s Office of Management and Budget and independent academic estimates, the bottom 70-to-80 percent of families would pay less under McGovern’s plan than under existing law or Nixon’s proposals. But Humphrey’s claim not only stuck, it practically wrote the script for an anti-Demogrant commercial that Nixon would run in the fall.


As McGovern barreled toward the nomination, leading Democrats’ attacks became more desperate. Anti-McGovern Democrats staged an “Anybody But McGovern” movement at the convention. When that failed, some pledged that they would not campaign for him and might even support Nixon. A Democrat even handed Republicans their best attack line: “The people don’t know McGovern is for amnesty, abortion, and legalization of pot,” an unnamed Democratic senator told the press. Hugh Scott, the GOP’s Senate minority leader, transformed the quote into “the three A’s: Acid, Amnesty, and Abortion” and a golden political slur was born. (Ironically, the unnamed Democratic senator who had originated the line was none other than Eagleton, though McGovern didn’t know it at the time.)

By the time November rolled around, McGovern’s loss to Nixon was a fait accompli.

I note that Nixon selected McGovern to be his opponent and sabotage several other candidates It is clear to everyone that trump really wants to run against sanders and that trump feats Biden. trump was willing to break the law to try to get dirt on Biden.

I note that Nixon was likely to win in that most POTUS who have a decent economy are re-elected but here Nixon won by historic margins. If sanders is the nominee, trump will likely win 45+ states easily
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Oh indeed!! Will be happy when sanders goes home to VT Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #1
This isn't 1972. Dennis Donovan Jan 2020 #2
It will be worse. George McGovern not only proudly wore the Democratic label, he didn't go out of still_one Jan 2020 #3
Excellent points. George II Jan 2020 #7
It will be bad, but not worse Hankee Jan 2020 #9
He didn't rule out a post for George Wallace in his administration. David__77 Jan 2020 #22
Yes unity...and who are the candidates promoting that??? Hint it's NOT Bernie. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #26
It's only opinion. (It's also mine) LakeArenal Jan 2020 #4
Emphasis on "Democrats, please listen and learn." George II Jan 2020 #5
It would wind up a bigger landslide than Nixon/McGovern; Reagan/Mondale; Johnson/Goldwater George II Jan 2020 #6
I don't believe that. Blue_true Jan 2020 #16
+1000 UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #27
I have to say, I don't think Sanders is looking well...now we have VP's so that would not dissuade Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #8
If Sanders' medical records can be hacked, the Russians have them and are Blue_true Jan 2020 #17
Misguided, but not surprising. redqueen Jan 2020 #10
I was amused by the article cited in that thread Gothmog Jan 2020 #15
If Bernie wins the nomination, he may beat McGovern's loss NYMinute Jan 2020 #11
If Gabbard is sanders' VP, they may pick up Hawaii Gothmog Jan 2020 #36
No they won't NYMinute Jan 2020 #37
K&R highplainsdem Jan 2020 #12
There's the thing - you have to go back to 1972 to find a too left candidate, crazytown Jan 2020 #13
The two elections you listed were very close. So you sort of blew up your own argument. nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #18
72, 84, Dems faced an ultra popular president crazytown Jan 2020 #19
True. But Bush was also popular in 2004. The Iraq debacle had not yet blown up on him. Blue_true Jan 2020 #20
W was the least popular president to be re-elected in the modern era crazytown Jan 2020 #21
Bush II was only slightly less popular than Eisenhower and both won re-election. Blue_true Jan 2020 #24
Approval on re-Election Day: Ike 68%, W 48% crazytown Jan 2020 #25
Bush Jr was at 48.4% on election day, Eisenhower was 68% NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #33
K&R! nt TexasTowelie Jan 2020 #14
Campaign contributions data. David__77 Jan 2020 #23
What does this have to do with the OP? nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #28
I was curious about that also Gothmog Jan 2020 #29
Funny how Biden's actions 20 years ago aren't relevant but an election 47 years ago is Bradshaw3 Jan 2020 #30
You're allowed to bring up anything you like. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #32
I think this would be almost beyond doubt. His admirers Hortensis Jan 2020 #31
As long ago as that was, his experience is still relevant. MineralMan Jan 2020 #34
You and I both lived through that campaign Gothmog Jan 2020 #35
It's Bernie, not Biden, who has the electability problem Gothmog Jan 2020 #38
The last time we experimented with a close to Bernie and Liz candidate was in 1972-George McGovern. Gothmog Jan 2020 #39
Looks familiar Gothmog Feb 2020 #40
Sanders would lose to trump Gothmog Feb 2020 #41
Trump is salivating at the prospect of running against Sanders Gothmog Feb 2020 #42
James Clyburn thinks that sanders is like McGovern Gothmog Feb 2020 #43
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