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Gothmog

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67. No one thinks that sanders has a chance

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 10:58 PM

Jan 2020

Clinton had a great book of oppo on sanders that she never used because no one got that sanders had a chance. If any of the current candidates thought that sanders was going to win, the oppo would come out

There are far too many real democrats who have good memories and who will not forgive or forget. I will support the nominee of the party but I do not think that sanders will be the nominee. If sanders looks like he might be the nominee, the oppo will come out if not by a campaign then some down ballot candidates will take matters into their own hands

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Fears of Bernie Sanders winning growing among Democratic Establishment [View all] booley Jan 2020 OP

Must be the reason behind all the unhinged attacks. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #1

DESPERATION... EXACTLY!! THEY FEAR THE BERN... AND FOR GOOD REASON!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #3

Endangered Democrats sound the alarm on Bernie and Warren Gothmog Jan 2020 #121

What "unhinged attacks?" ehrnst Jan 2020 #4

Irony is dead. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #13

The Valley Below, thanks for the good laugh out loud. :) eom Sloumeau Jan 2020 #17

You know it melman Jan 2020 #23

You guys consistently push the 'desperation' and 'scared' memes. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #28

If he wins it's McGovern all over again. The repugs will blast he's a socialist 24/7. brush Jan 2020 #50

Yep. I think that's a VERY safe bet. calimary Jan 2020 #56

I agree! sheshe2 Jan 2020 #60

Didn't work the first time, won't work this time. BTW, you forgot this link: George II Jan 2020 #2

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I'm talking about the OP about a week or two ago (no, I won't go looking for it) that claimed.... George II Jan 2020 #11

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Bernie has the Enthusiasm and Organizational Edge in Iowa ritapria Jan 2020 #6

With his record cash haul, one would expect Sanders to be doing much better than he is. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #31

Enthusiasm doesn't mean your vote counts more than anyone else. ehrnst Jan 2020 #37

Bernie Sanders: Mr. Enthusiasm. Gets the people excited. And sometimes energized. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #88

THIS... 100 PERCENT!! THE ENTHUSIASM BUILDING FOR BERNIE'S PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT IS MASSIVE!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #125

There is nothing said group likes to think more than that they are feared. TidalWave46 Jan 2020 #7

I hope that DNC respects the will of the people Perseus Jan 2020 #8

The DNC respects the will of the majority of primary voters. They always have. ehrnst Jan 2020 #12

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I do. Where does your source say "the DNC didn't respect the will of the majority of voters?" ehrnst Jan 2020 #18

The source is Sanders. He's been feeding them that for 5 years. nt Hortensis Jan 2020 #21

Because it sure isn't in the article that was provided in response, that's for sure. ehrnst Jan 2020 #22

It's developed the strength of secular religion. Hortensis Jan 2020 #25

So the DNC made an apology for ......nothing? LiberalLovinLug Jan 2020 #29

So your source had nothing to do with my question about how "the DNC was ehrnst Jan 2020 #33

Sometimes when dealing with the unhinged, you apologize for nothing Steven Maurer Jan 2020 #59

The DNC did NOT apologize for injuring him in any way. Hortensis Jan 2020 #87

Bernie IS a master political strategist, as confirmed by the masterful campaign he is running. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #126

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Still not seeing where the "DNC was not respecting the will of the majority of Democratic ehrnst Jan 2020 #34

None so blind... LiberalLovinLug Jan 2020 #36

Got nothing, I see... ehrnst Jan 2020 #38

How is it you don't see that they DIDN'T DO IT? Hortensis Jan 2020 #42

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2020 #47

That's right. Cha Jan 2020 #69

Can you show me where the will of the majority of Democrats was actually thwarted by the DNC ehrnst Jan 2020 #41

Sanders: "Trust me, if they went into our emails -- I suppose which could happen, who knows -- betsuni Jan 2020 #57

Yep. ehrnst Jan 2020 #62

Perhaps you should follow your own advice? Cha Jan 2020 #68

Hopefully Bernie respects the will of the people whistler162 Jan 2020 #55

+1000. ehrnst Jan 2020 #91

President Sanders most certainly WILL... starting the minute he takes the oath of office!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #127

So true, on so many levels!! People know what's what. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #102

What is an "establishment Democrat"? A candidate who didn't hire Briana Joy Gray, Jill Stein still_one Jan 2020 #10

Establishment Democrats are full time, loyal Democrats. nt oasis Jan 2020 #112

True still_one Jan 2020 #113

They'll pull the "Donna Brazille" thing again. Fix The Stupid Jan 2020 #15

What's this "Donna Brazille thing" the Democratic Establishment supposedly "pulled?" ehrnst Jan 2020 #30

Cat got your tongue? ehrnst Jan 2020 #89

I'm pretty sure Donna Brazille issued an apology, for which she should be given credit & forgiven. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #133

I'm not sure it's a winning strategy for a campaign (or its supporters) to highlight The Valley Below Jan 2020 #16

LOL :) Sloumeau Jan 2020 #19

don't forget the organizational skills lapfog_1 Jan 2020 #44

... ehrnst Jan 2020 #20

The largest fund raiser from small donations in history? LiberalLovinLug Jan 2020 #35

Not a chance. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #39

If those donations don't represent voters, they're not really indicative of that candidate's ehrnst Jan 2020 #46

Per the Economist model, Sanders hasn't gained an inch since the race began... brooklynite Jan 2020 #24

I'm fearful of what he does when he doesn't get the nomination Dream Girl Jan 2020 #27

Certain repeated characteristics usually ascribed to trump by DUers? empedocles Jan 2020 #40

You guys are really pushing the "scared" meme, but never offer evidence to support it. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #32

Truth to power scares a lot of people. Lunabell Jan 2020 #43

I don't think that he does. In fact he has a bit of enthusiastic support on the GOP side. ehrnst Jan 2020 #48

It sure does! Fortunately theres a cure for "Fear the Bern" syndrome...his name is President Sanders InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #131

Winning an an outright majority in the primaries? crazytown Jan 2020 #45

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it Gothmog Jan 2020 #49

that's one of the reasons I support Bernie janterry Jan 2020 #51

If sanders is the nominee, trump could win 45+ states Gothmog Jan 2020 #53

I really don't think so janterry Jan 2020 #54

No, that's not how "someone like Trump got elected." ehrnst Jan 2020 #64

I only can report on how I feel janterry Jan 2020 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Jan 2020 #75

He could just as easily beat Joe. It's going to be a tough fight no matter who gets the totodeinhere Jan 2020 #63

There was more than one vote for bombing Iraq. ehrnst Jan 2020 #66

I love Elizabeth and I would gladly vote for her if she gets the nomination. n/t totodeinhere Jan 2020 #83

But you would vote for the candidate that voted to bomb Iraq in 1998. ehrnst Jan 2020 #92

No one thinks that sanders has a chance Gothmog Jan 2020 #67

"No one" is quite a stretch. Of course we can disagree on who we think has the best chance. totodeinhere Jan 2020 #84

The media is pushing a horse race for ratings Gothmog Jan 2020 #85

There is that too. Of course the media wants a horse race. But Nate Silver, who totodeinhere Jan 2020 #93

Isn't that "a hypothetical?" ehrnst Jan 2020 #96

No, I'm just repeating what Nate's analysis is. That's not the same as subjecting totodeinhere Jan 2020 #100

But you are "responding" to that hypothetical, yes? ehrnst Jan 2020 #105

Nate has sanders at one chance out of five Gothmog Jan 2020 #97

Yes, as I said, no candidate has a better than 50-50 chance at this point according totodeinhere Jan 2020 #101

But still, it's a hypothetical at this point, yes? ehrnst Jan 2020 #106

No it's a finite result of polling and it is the totodeinhere Jan 2020 #114

Then it's speculation, yes? ehrnst Jan 2020 #117

42% is significantly closer to 50% than 21% Gothmog Jan 2020 #111

Of ocurse if you support him for the nomination then you would like totodeinhere Jan 2020 #115

You would lean towards the hypthetical prediction that he has a better chance. ehrnst Jan 2020 #118

Remember, there was a 'plethora' of DU posts that stated "bernie just might win this thing" ehrnst Jan 2020 #90

I usually don't respond to hypotheticals. totodeinhere Jan 2020 #94

Except if that hypothetical involves speculation that Bernie "might win" the nomination. ehrnst Jan 2020 #95

No, I also think that Joe or Elizabeth or someone else might also win. totodeinhere Jan 2020 #98

More hypotheticals... I guess you've changed your mind about responding to them? ehrnst Jan 2020 #99

You're trying to set me up here. I will support whoever gets the nomination as I already said. totodeinhere Jan 2020 #103

I'm just trying to get an answer to my question, and you keep evading with ehrnst Jan 2020 #107

Let me try one more time. It's as if I asked you if you would support Warren if she took totodeinhere Jan 2020 #109

Yet, you keep responding repeatedly. With evasions. ehrnst Jan 2020 #110

Hypothetically Joe could win, but IMHO it's unlikely wh you look at the trend & his poor performance InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #124

I don't think you realize that Biden has built a very impressive resume since 2008 as Obama's emmaverybo Jan 2020 #136

You make a fair point emma... Joe was a VERY loyal VP to Obama & he does deserve credit for that. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #137

Well, loyalty certainly goes to his character and folks being glad on behalf of Obama. But he did emmaverybo Jan 2020 #139

Why would you? You notice these "hypotheticalists" always know peep's inner most thoughts & motives InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #123

The last time we experimented with a close to Bernie and Liz candidate was in 1972-George McGovern. Gothmog Jan 2020 #122

that's pretty much crystal clear AlexSFCA Jan 2020 #52

not looking for a new messiah but thanks for sharing anyway nt msongs Jan 2020 #58

I thought that said "whining" instead of "winning." betsuni Jan 2020 #61

LOL may I please have whatever you are ingesting? Post it enough and maybe it will come true! nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #65

I'm looking forward to casting a vote for Bernie Sanders! David__77 Jan 2020 #70

YOU AND ME BOTH!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #134

He keeps using that word.... MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #71

No one really thinks that sanders will be the nominee Gothmog Jan 2020 #72

"May your choices reflect your hopes, not your fears." RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #74

Anti establishment feelings are very Alpeduez21 Jan 2020 #76

Anti establishment feelings are very prevalent in ehrnst Jan 2020 #77

We probably shouldn't use Trump supporters as our baseline. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #79

Bernie's bold progressive agenda will triumph over moderate incrementalism! We The People demand it! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #132

If Bernie wins Evergreen Emerald Jan 2020 #78

You misspelled "Biden." InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #129

"Fears of Bernie Sanders winning..." myohmy2 Jan 2020 #80

Yes, fear of President Sanders is irrational. Indeed, Bernie is continually growing on those people InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #108

The only thing I fear is the massive oppo research the Rethugs would unleash on Biden... InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #130

Well, I know I'm shaking in my boots, for sure. MineralMan Jan 2020 #81

Caucuses are meaningless and we need to get rid of them. liberalmuse Jan 2020 #82

Nevada and Iowa are two of the few remaining caucuses Gothmog Jan 2020 #86

you people are funny..... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #104

If he does win - THEY'D BETTER FUCKING SUPPORT HIM lame54 Jan 2020 #116

YOU'RE DAMN FUCKIN' RIGHT!! WE CAN'T AFFORD ANOTHER YEAR OF THE PUMA!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #135

They should be afraid TSIAS Jan 2020 #119

Yes VERY afraid, but Fear the Bern will soon give way to Hear the Bern when he gives his nomiation InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #138

Obama campaign guru: Trump would love to run against Bernie Gothmog Jan 2020 #120

That post removed person always posts to threads like this one. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2020 #128