Democratic Primaries

evertonfc

(1,713 posts) Fri Jan 10, 2020, 12:32 AM Jan 2020

my fear is we have a candidate problem [View all]

Our candidates are superior but unlike Clinton or Obama, the average voter may see an election between two old white dudes. Most of the public isn't as engaged or informed as DU. Far from it. Think about 2008. Obama won in Indiana. That takes a transformative candidate to pull that off. We don't have that in 2020. We have old, career, Washington insiders. Fact. The fact that this race will be close is pretty damning. Im sorry but there is a lack of excitement about our candidates. I work in politics. A passion to beat Trump? Yes, amoung the engaged. I just don't see movement like I did with Clinton and Obama.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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my fear is we have a candidate problem [View all] evertonfc Jan 2020 OP

The only thing that matters to me is whether the old white dude can beat Trump. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #1

I agree, Bernie will excite the base and CLOBBER tRumpty Dumbty!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #7

Doubtful, but I have a lot of hope for Joe Biden. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #8

lMaO NYMinute Jan 2020 #14

Time will tell sandensea Jan 2020 #2

✔️ blm Jan 2020 #3

That's right, I think. David__77 Jan 2020 #4

Well said. Plus Cheeto is almost as repulsive to independent voters as he is to Democrats. sandensea Jan 2020 #18

I think he will attempt to frame the Iran thing as an anti-war credential. David__77 Jan 2020 #19

Let him try it - it'll make him look that much more ridiculous. sandensea Jan 2020 #44

You don't believe Bernie has a great grass roots movement behind him ? ritapria Jan 2020 #5

+1,000,000 InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #9

If he is the nominee, which I doubt, not only will we see the rerun of 1972 question everything Jan 2020 #15

Yes. LakeArenal Jan 2020 #27

He had more support before and what he has now is insufficient to win the nomination. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #24

He had less competition before Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #45

My fear is that people will become petty Lithos Jan 2020 #6

I wouldn't be afraid of that. I'd be afraid they just go 'meh' what's it to me? floppyboo Jan 2020 #13

Too bad those who vote regularly don't agree with this...as for the meh crowd...I doubt there are Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #25

SandersSocialist that is all Trump needs to say doc03 Jan 2020 #31

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #10

Explain ''movement''. YOHABLO Jan 2020 #11

If I'm going to a rock concert or a football game, maybe I want appalachiablue Jan 2020 #12

"people need to get real, use their brain and vote" redqueen Jan 2020 #40

My fear also. But we'll see, won't we? PatrickforO Jan 2020 #16

You are right. I wish we could fix it but rainy Jan 2020 #17

If what you said was true both Warren and Sanders would be leading...you are not excited for Biden Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #23

In 2010 our candidates needed support, not Obama delisen Jan 2020 #34

IN 2010, I heard all about how a message vote would be sent to Obama. And our candidates Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #39

A lot of that 'message' vote was because AM talk radio and the rest of the PatrickforO Jan 2020 #43

ACA was a huge accomplishment! We needed to be prepared delisen Jan 2020 #46

Ah, you're in primary 'back at cha' mode, but it isn't necessary. PatrickforO Jan 2020 #42

I disagree. lark Jan 2020 #20

You do know part of Indiana borders Illinois and is in the Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #21

I would suggest that, given that the two highest polling Democratic candidates are old white dudes, LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #22

Good point...very true...but I think those who opine do not include Bernie in this...and he is the Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #26

Because Bernie's supporters imbue him with a messianic quality that transcends human limitations LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #30

I think that is absolutely true. It goes far beyond the usual support for a candidate. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #36

Warren isn't that far behind LakeArenal Jan 2020 #35

True...she is above 70 as you pointed out. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #41

You are right about public not engaged. Look how Prosper Jan 2020 #28

Let's wait and see what develops... lees1975 Jan 2020 #29

There will be multiple catastrophic events created NoMoreRepugs Jan 2020 #32

There is only one obnoxiousdrunk Jan 2020 #33

The Republicans have a candidate problem fescuerescue Jan 2020 #37

I dunno, I think Yang is pretty dang transformative. redqueen Jan 2020 #38