Democratic Primaries

thesquanderer

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40. re: picking an "establishment Democrat" or the "most unifying, inspiring, or whatever"

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:23 AM

Jan 2020

The "whatever" could be "the candidate which polls show as beating Trump most decisively."

If it were me voting in that situation, I'd look at (a) someone who is nearly certain to win Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, and (b) the one who polls show getting the most electoral college votes, which also translates to the strongest coattails. By November, we will have plenty of polling available to have determined these things.

I know lots of people here are saying essentially "anyone but Sanders," but if Sanders was the one who best met those qualifications, I think it would be silly not to choose him, it would be cutting off your nose to spite your face. And I suspect that actual voting delegates are more pragmatic and less dogmatic compared to many people on this forum.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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In the event that no candidate has 51% going into the convention, [View all] pnwmom Jan 2020 OP

Also keep in mind that there will be 767 super delegates who can vote in the second and.... George II Jan 2020 #1

I already said that. pnwmom Jan 2020 #4

Missed that, sorry! George II Jan 2020 #6

I agree with you that they will pick an "establishment Democrat" or, at least, pnwmom Jan 2020 #10

re: picking an "establishment Democrat" or the "most unifying, inspiring, or whatever" thesquanderer Jan 2020 #40

Agreed. Momentum will be important. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #8

If the super delegates are the determining factor in selecting the nominee, Dems could lose again Fiendish Thingy Jan 2020 #28

Superdelegates never overturned the election results robbedvoter Jan 2020 #53

Depends on which candidates are left by then. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #2

I agree. If they're expecting a brokered convention, why keep alienating other Democrats? pnwmom Jan 2020 #7

I doubt very many will go to Bernie. MH1 Jan 2020 #3

Whatever brokering goes on, a majority of delegates will not vote for Sanders. crazytown Jan 2020 #5

At this point in the campaign, they look to be exponentially worse than they were 4 years ago. George II Jan 2020 #9

Not much for "what ifs" at this point, but this is a really good one. Hoyt Jan 2020 #11

hopefully that will not happen because questionseverything Jan 2020 #12

It seems increasingly likely to me that no one will have a majority, pnwmom Jan 2020 #13

The supers squirecam Jan 2020 #20

The last time they did that was with Walter Mondale, who failed to get a majority in the primaries pnwmom Jan 2020 #25

Mondale didn't face nixon squirecam Jan 2020 #30

You're right -- thanks! pnwmom Jan 2020 #34

Mondale lost to Reagan radical noodle Jan 2020 #31

have to be really careful about this booley Jan 2020 #14

That's why the delegates and superdelegates will be careful to pick someone pnwmom Jan 2020 #15

That's why Bernie was so eager to radical noodle Jan 2020 #32

The supers will put the individual with the most delegates over the top on the second vote if need Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #16

Not necessarily. For example, if there are three candidates with approximately 30% each, pnwmom Jan 2020 #18

There can be no unifying candidate chosen at the convention ...no one could do it...the only safe Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #17

I doubt you would say that if Bernie "won" the primary with 34% of the vote, pnwmom Jan 2020 #19

If bernie squirecam Jan 2020 #21

I strongly disagree. If no one has a majority or at least a very strong plurality, pnwmom Jan 2020 #22

By definition squirecam Jan 2020 #29

It is unifying if the backers of multiple candidates can get behind the one pnwmom Jan 2020 #37

There would be no way to know squirecam Jan 2020 #41

You couldn't be more wrong about my personal views. pnwmom Jan 2020 #42

Bernie squirecam Jan 2020 #46

I wouldn't be happy but I would say that ...it must be based on the number of delegates... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #26

In the unlikely event that this scenario plays out we will see what happens when it totodeinhere Jan 2020 #23

The candidates should think about it carefully. If they did, they might realize pnwmom Jan 2020 #24

Quite true...as a Hillary voter I can attest to that. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #27

Speculating about what we don't know describes half the posts in this forum. ;-) n/t thesquanderer Jan 2020 #39

Yes I know. But I would rather spend my energy on supporting my candidate and totodeinhere Jan 2020 #43

Oh, yawn. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2020 #33

1952 still_one Jan 2020 #36

And the delegate selection process is now vastly different. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2020 #45

1984, when Walter Mondale lost 49 states. n/t pnwmom Jan 2020 #38

That convention had more than one ballot? PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2020 #44

It was a brokered convention. They got the 40 votes they were short pnwmom Jan 2020 #47

Exactly. There was one ballot. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2020 #48

It was a true brokered convention, settled by superdelegates. pnwmom Jan 2020 #49

I'm under the impression that a brokered convention by definition PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2020 #50

Regardless of what the label is, the fact remains that the primaries left Mondale 40 votes short pnwmom Jan 2020 #51

If it gets to a brokered convention, there is only one candiate in the top tier that i would still_one Jan 2020 #35

I think if Biden is not the one, they will "draft"HRC. LiberalArkie Jan 2020 #52

I, for one, have been very happy to not have the superdelegates put their fingers on the scale aikoaiko Jan 2020 #54

If it does go to a second vote, most of the superdelegates will MineralMan Jan 2020 #55

But suppose that Bernie somehow edges Biden out? pnwmom Jan 2020 #56

I think that is very, very unlikely, actually. MineralMan Jan 2020 #57