Democratic Primaries

Demsrule86

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90. His big theme is 'our revolution' so he does have one...and not getting into specifics is smart...

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:18 PM

Jan 2020

that is how they get you. By attacking the specifics...I have no doubt that sexism plays a role...we live in a sexist country. So a successful candidate is going to have to overcome this and convince enough people that she can win...as Obama did fighting to win in a racist society...If this was not such a desperate election with a loss giving Trump four more years, I think more people would give women candidates more of a chance. But if we lose the consequences are so dire that people don't want to risk it.

I support Biden because I always liked him, he has experience and he can win the states we need. I like Amy too..and think she would make a kick ass VP. And in four or eight years she could win the presidency...honestly I don't think Warren would. We win elections in the center.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Misogyny anyone? [View all] NewsCenter28 Jan 2020 OP

re:"It's always 'I'd vote for a woman just not THAT woman'. Without fail. Every single damn time." thesquanderer Jan 2020 #1

Bernie : An OLD White Guy ? ritapria Jan 2020 #2

He's 78. volstork Jan 2020 #4

But Joe Biden at 77 is young? Paka Jan 2020 #30

I said nothing volstork Jan 2020 #54

That's accurate. It's not ageism. ehrnst Jan 2020 #51

I'm an old white guy too relayerbob Jan 2020 #60

Yes. After the age of 65, the rate of Alzheimers doubles every 5 years. And that's just one pnwmom Jan 2020 #68

You have a VP...and you can get sick at any age...our youngest president was assassinated so...? Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #93

Did Biden just have a heart attack? I missed that. pnwmom Jan 2020 #96

I have no idea what you are talking about I am talking about age in general...it could apply to Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #97

You were responding in a thread about Bernie's age. And he has had a recent heart attack. pnwmom Jan 2020 #98

My point was that illness and sadly an assasination in the Kennedy situation and he was the Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #120

There's a big difference between 70 and 78. She could be finishing the last year of a second term pnwmom Jan 2020 #121

Only because you like Warren don't like Joe...so I don't agree. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #124

There is twice the risk of Alzheimers at 75 as at 70, and by 85, pnwmom Jan 2020 #127

Sorry but yes he's definitely too old to be president and so is Biden tymorial Jan 2020 #79

Sorry, but the vast majority of Democrats disagree with you.. whathehell Jan 2020 #105

Bernie had a heart attack recently. murielm99 Jan 2020 #102

Seriously, vsrazdem Jan 2020 #3

Get real. America is nowhere near ready to elect a socialist. brush Jan 2020 #9

Well, you better tell that to all the voters who will be voting for him. School them, for they know vsrazdem Jan 2020 #11

The Majority of POC aren't.. nor are the majority of the Voters in the crucial Swing Cha Jan 2020 #15

If that is the case, there is no reason anybody would try to stop him. So, I am confused as vsrazdem Jan 2020 #22

I only know I want someone who will WIN Cha Jan 2020 #24

As do we all want somebody who will win, and should support the nominee, whoever it is. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #27

I would support Sanders in a general...but believe he would lose badly and we probably lose the Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #42

I disagree, but that's okay. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #63

Well if he is the candidate,I hope you are right...and I still don't think he takes enough AA vote Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #71

No matter who the nominee is, AA voters are not going to vote for Trump. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #72

Now, say the same thing (with the same level of certainty) regarding Bernie voters. Skya Rhen Jan 2020 #81

If what you're implying is correct, that's all the more reason Bernie would win: young folks' voting JudyM Jan 2020 #95

You assume,they will show up as they have no choice...but I don't agree...they won't vote for Trump Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #125

Oh, you mean like the last election, in Wisconsin when 75,000 people went to the polls, stood in vsrazdem Jan 2020 #133

What centrist candidate? The Democratic platform was the most progressive in history. betsuni Jan 2020 #138

And won Wisconsin in the primary. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #139

Too bad he couldn't win for the Democrat in the general election. betsuni Jan 2020 #140

Yes, it was. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #141

Ya, so why all the Bernie bashin?Clearly theyre scared Bernie's surgin, on his way to the nomination InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #75

It's actually what's best for the country...running someone who can beat... brush Jan 2020 #16

What is best for the country is what the VOTERS decide is best for the country, Period. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #23

WIth EC, VOTERS don't decide; Dem primary is not the General Election MH1 Jan 2020 #111

If you read the response given, it was in reference to running someone who was best for the country vsrazdem Jan 2020 #112

Think with your head and not your heart and you SHOULD come to a different conclusion but you UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #123

Thank you brush-this a million times and it is why I posted this thread-n/t NewsCenter28 Jan 2020 #14

You get real -- Polls consistently show that socialism has whathehell Jan 2020 #17

We shall see. And voters under 45 don't turn out as much as older ones. brush Jan 2020 #26

That is not true...we will lose and badly. For all of you who believe this...I suggest Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #46

He is not a socialist and please explain what you understand what socialism is. Perseus Jan 2020 #29

Are you not aware he's been calling himself a socialist for decades? brush Jan 2020 #32

There is a big difference about "Socialism" and "Communism" and there is another difference Perseus Jan 2020 #49

If he himself can't clear it up what are voters with fears of socialism... brush Jan 2020 #55

Good point, and I don't disagree with you on that one. As I said, that has been his failure to me. Perseus Jan 2020 #110

Sanders is not a capitalist by his own words. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #48

I'm 1 79 year old women voting for Bernie. Paka Jan 2020 #35

Everyone has their opinion. brush Jan 2020 #37

I am sorry, but... sheshe2 Jan 2020 #61

Calling them ignorant voters is highly disrespectful. Paka Jan 2020 #70

If they stay home, as you suggest they might, then their vote doesn't matter either way. What I... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2020 #103

I don't respect any voter who wouldn't vote for the Democratic nominee really...fuck them. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #126

Well said Perseus Jan 2020 #131

Bernie isn't really a dem. 58Sunliner Jan 2020 #34

Democratic is more than just a party. Paka Jan 2020 #36

No Progressive isn't a Democrat necessarily...but a Democrat is a person who belongs to the Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #66

Without values, the party is nothing. Paka Jan 2020 #73

That is where you are wrong...a letter next to your name means you are an independent or a Democrat. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #82

I don't doubt a party needs values. But the point is in order to be a Democrat,you have to be a Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #117

The "Democrat" Party? SilasSouleII Jan 2020 #80

Reply title cut off last two letters fixed it. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #92

It does not mean the "same darn thing". MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #114

And the reason I fixed it is because I view it as an error...the point was the post remained the Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #116

The Democratic party-which he bashes. 58Sunliner Jan 2020 #86

Thanks...as I said the 'ic' was cut off in the reply title...fixed it. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #88

Exactly -- Thank you. whathehell Jan 2020 #106

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #101

Yes, lets get Obama to tell the truth! Nt USALiberal Jan 2020 #113

I don't vote based on sex, age, race, etc. left-of-center2012 Jan 2020 #5

There are also several capable male candidates Hav Jan 2020 #6

This OP is an attack on the majority of people here at DU SCantiGOP Jan 2020 #7

It isn't-It is a VERY direct attack however on Bernie Sanders NewsCenter28 Jan 2020 #12

Why such an emotional defence of Bernie Sanders btw? NewsCenter28 Jan 2020 #13

Wow; so because someone supports one candidate, they should accept unfair attacks on others? LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #18

It is the posters opinion, and we, as liberals, should respect everyone's opinions Perseus Jan 2020 #21

Well,I've no doubt misogyny lurks here also. cwydro Jan 2020 #104

No, it isn't. kcr Jan 2020 #119

Wish Harris or Kloubachar had gained traction. It's time for a woman Hoyt Jan 2020 #8

Meh-I'll pass on this wedge. jalan48 Jan 2020 #10

Bernie Sanders is also highly qualified, and your characterization of him as an old white guy is Perseus Jan 2020 #19

Many of us are Not accepting.. most Cha Jan 2020 #25

IMO the visceral disgust for Sanders is a little over the top, but that's just me. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #28

No, it's not just you. Paka Jan 2020 #40

Anti-Semitism Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #62

not in my case Skittles Jan 2020 #89

without fail? Skittles Jan 2020 #20

Warren should be top tier. She has a progressive platform and actually has a plan. 58Sunliner Jan 2020 #31

You apparently haven't listened to Bernie enough. Paka Jan 2020 #41

I would like some facts and figures to go with all the pipe dreaming. 58Sunliner Jan 2020 #83

Yelling and wagging fingers isn't a plan. we can do it Jan 2020 #91

Maybe that is why she is not top tier...to many plans...presidential races are not won using a Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #67

I agree that she needs a cohesive whole, a vision. I also think that sexism plays a role. 58Sunliner Jan 2020 #87

His big theme is 'our revolution' so he does have one...and not getting into specifics is smart... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #90

I'll probably vote for Biden. I'm pragmatic. I don't think he is a bad candidate. 58Sunliner Jan 2020 #109

He has already said ...he respects any state that wants to legalize and wont interfere... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #118

Yawn 🥱 Sherman A1 Jan 2020 #33

I think just about everyone on this site voted for a woman in 2016. David__77 Jan 2020 #38

But the PAST is forgotten. oldsoftie Jan 2020 #44

And we lost;don't want that again. That is why I am all in for Biden-not because I don't want women Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #94

..and you assume voters in WI, MI and PA will reject every woman whathehell Jan 2020 #137

There will be a woman on the 2020 ticket aeromanKC Jan 2020 #39

Always blame misogyny or racism when you dont want to accept reality. oldsoftie Jan 2020 #43

Let's also remember that in the case of 2016 "that woman" had been the most popular politician StevieM Jan 2020 #45

A record 17 times voted Most Admired Woman too. betsuni Jan 2020 #64

Is this a place where one can type NYMinute Jan 2020 #47

The "I told you so" could also go against your candidate of choice, so I would leave it alone :) Perseus Jan 2020 #53

I think you're misunderstanding the OP NYMinute Jan 2020 #78

Yeah if someone like Biden was beating my preferred candidate NewsCenter28 Jan 2020 #100

+1,000,000 nt NYMinute Jan 2020 #107

I don't disagree with that either...I think that there is a small group of hard core folks who Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #132

Yep. ehrnst Jan 2020 #50

Amazing as it might seem, I am supporting experience lapfog_1 Jan 2020 #52

The subject title of this thread is BULLSHIT Martin Eden Jan 2020 #56

Yes. This post has obnoxiousdrunk Jan 2020 #85

well said... samnsara Jan 2020 #57

Can't warren sanders supporters make this happen? so frustrating. we need structural change Kurt V. Jan 2020 #58

First we were all racists for not backing certain candidates... TCJ70 Jan 2020 #59

Utterly untrue. warmfeet Jan 2020 #65

You're right. I've heard so many, right from the beginning, say that this election pnwmom Jan 2020 #69

I have never considered Mayor Pete a contender. And I do have doubts about whether a woman can win. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #76

The media challenges women's credentials more than men's. blm Jan 2020 #74

Warren got great coverage on MSNBC...she is on Rachel and Chris's show often...and they sure as Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #130

This is so embarrassing DrToast Jan 2020 #77

I agree...sometimes a candidate just loses. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #84

"Sanders is Jeremy Corbyn on steroids" - I disagree Myrddin Jan 2020 #99

No - when you take away the different systems NYMinute Jan 2020 #108

Whatever made you think winning elections is about skill sets... aikoaiko Jan 2020 #115

Now that is absolutely true. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #129

Many of those supporters you tout as an example now support the older white guy while ignoring Autumn Jan 2020 #122

People have a right to vote as they choose and are not required to vote for a woman to Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #128

Same reason I supported him last time. I'm hoping he wins the nomination because Autumn Jan 2020 #134

Biden is far more qualified than anyone else in the field madville Jan 2020 #135

Capitalism I_UndergroundPanther Jan 2020 #136