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Gothmog

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30. Politics How States Could Force Trump to Release His Tax Returns
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:42 PM
Feb 2019

I volunteer a great deal of time on voter protection issues and have been in war rooms the last five or so elections. Prof. Hasen has a good blog on election law and he believes that these laws are constitutional. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/donald-trump-tax-returns-release-214950


The answer lies in another part of Article II—the part that received some important attention in Bush v. Gore, the Supreme Court decision that Democrats love to hate. Famously, the 2000 case between Republican nominee George W. Bush and Democratic nominee Al Gore effectively handed the election to Bush when it ended the Florida recount.

Article II provides that the “state legislature” “may direct” “the manner” for choosing presidential electors. In Bush v. Gore, the Court stated that this Article II power given to state legislatures was “plenary,” meaning that the states have a broad power when it comes to presidential elections. Indeed, the Court wrote that even though state legislators have given each state’s voters the right to vote for presidential electors, at any time a state legislature can “take back the power” to appoint electors. In other words, if the California or Texas state legislature wanted to directly choose the state’s presidential electors in 2020, the state could do so. As Dean Vik Amar notes, the Constitution does not necessarily include a right of Americans to vote for president at all (and American citizens in U.S. territories do not have this right).

The logic then goes like this: If a state legislature can take back from the voters the right to vote at all for president, it may be able to use ballot-access laws to limit the candidate choices presented to voters. And doing so would not impinge on the Qualifications Clause in Article II because Congress ultimately counts the Electoral College votes and can police that Clause. If a state legislature, for example, chose electors supporting a candidate under the age of 35, the U.S. House of Representatives, which counts the Electoral College votes, could disregard those votes after deeming the underage candidate unqualified.

Prof. Hasen has some concerns about the wisdom of these laws and possible GOP retaliation if blue states adopt these laws. I also believe that these laws are valid
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Christie had vetoed a similar law when he was governor Gothmog Feb 2019 #1
the governor in NJ is a Democrat now NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #2
I agree Gothmog Feb 2019 #5
I'm sure it will get challenged in court. Being that the Constitution leaves elections SFnomad Feb 2019 #3
Prof. Tribe thinks that these laws are constitutional Gothmog Mar 2019 #44
Did you just cut/past this from somewhere else? SFnomad Mar 2019 #45
Every Presidential Canidate should follow Elizabeth Cha Feb 2019 #4
What's The Deal With Refusung To Show Tax Returns Me. Feb 2019 #6
There were stories that Trump was shocked NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #7
He's Shocked, I'm Shocked Me. Feb 2019 #11
Transparency, baby! That's what it's Cha Feb 2019 #10
I know she isn't well liked here. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #33
Fantastic! NurseJackie Feb 2019 #8
It's a start. pressbox69 Feb 2019 #9
Oh - it will pass alright JustAnotherGen Feb 2019 #12
I'd also like politicians to be required to release... VarryOn Feb 2019 #13
And child support payments? CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #15
Sure. Very relavent... VarryOn Feb 2019 #16
I agree. Full disclosure. CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #17
That's the way it should be Andy823 Feb 2019 #14
Not to throw cold water - but TomSlick Feb 2019 #18
I think at the state level NewJeffCT Feb 2019 #19
A reasonable argument. TomSlick Feb 2019 #21
Every state has rules about who gets on the ballot. rgbecker Feb 2019 #35
Again, a reasonable argument. TomSlick Feb 2019 #36
Well if there is going to be a tax return rule it has to start sometime. rgbecker Feb 2019 #39
I don't disagree. TomSlick Feb 2019 #42
We are changing our reputation JustAnotherGen Feb 2019 #22
Those are the *minimum* requirements. I don't see any reason why Congress or states The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #27
Candidates who won't disclose taxes shouldn't be on the ballot Gothmog Feb 2019 #28
Great! Transparency for everyone. No double standards. nt R B Garr Feb 2019 #20
Released their tax returns every year since 1977, Gothmog Feb 2019 #23
Yep, if you dont release them you are hiding something PERIOD Eliot Rosewater Feb 2019 #26
WTG New Jersey!! Peacetrain Feb 2019 #24
California Needs to do this! UCmeNdc Feb 2019 #25
Yeah for Senator Warren Gothmog Feb 2019 #29
Politics How States Could Force Trump to Release His Tax Returns Gothmog Feb 2019 #30
Yes!!! honest.abe Feb 2019 #31
At this point in time, a law shouldn't have to be passed. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #32
Has sanders released his tax returns yet? Gothmog Feb 2019 #34
Not yet. rgbecker Feb 2019 #40
It's really odd how someone can imply there's R B Garr Feb 2019 #41
Good leftofcool Feb 2019 #37
... Scurrilous Feb 2019 #38
Senator Gillibrand has released her taxes Gothmog Mar 2019 #43
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