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BlueMTexpat

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151. That is NOT the conversation that

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:49 PM

Jan 2020

Warren was referring to.

She was referring to a conversation that the two of them had together in 2018.

For you to say unequivocally that she is lying, you would have had to have been present during that conversation.

As another poster has pointed out, your argument is also a fallacy. You point to speeches and behavior in the 1980s.

What Bernie FINALLY did WAY after the Dem Convention in 2016 (and it would be nice to have a link to the 41 events you allege), does not mitigate his atrocious behavior in dragging the fight to the Dem Convention in 2016 when it was clear to anyone sane that Hillary had won the largest number of delegates. All that did was to encourage the atrocious behavior of his surrogates and "Bernie Bros" who kept painting HRC as worse than Trump.

Bernie's response to that atrocious behavior then: *crickets*

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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So. A WOMAN. A FEMALE CAN'T WIN. [View all] sheshe2 Jan 2020 OP

And Warren confirmed that statement just minutes ago. George II Jan 2020 #1

Yes she did. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #3

I don't believe it... Stellar Jan 2020 #108

Luv ya Stellar. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #111

Aw, OK thanks Stellar Jan 2020 #147

Nah, it's just because you are a Bernie supporter BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #124

Why would she have lied to people about him saying it just ehrnst Jan 2020 #133

Oh come on, this was a conversation over a year ago between the 2 Senators. lark Jan 2020 #153

Not really. She claimed he disagreed on whether she can win. OliverQ Jan 2020 #29

From her statement: "I thought a woman could win; he disagreed." It wasn't about her... George II Jan 2020 #35

thank you. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #70

I have a feeling it was a friendly conversation and they just disagreed on that. My husband thinks Autumn Jan 2020 #53

Please. He said it. marble falls Jan 2020 #59

Yes he did. Did you happen to read what Ltz said? Not everyone sees only in black and white. Autumn Jan 2020 #76

Did you read what Elizebeth Warren said? ... marble falls Jan 2020 #117

I have a feeling this unequivocal interchange happened: "I thought a woman could win; he disagreed." George II Jan 2020 #61

Hm. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #73

Yes, it does sound like he 'disagreed' that 'a woman could win.' Certainly that could discourage ehrnst Jan 2020 #134

Yes, he disagreed was stated in the article. Autumn Jan 2020 #142

Nervous laughter and a straw man. ehrnst Jan 2020 #143

I'm not a bit nervous. I replied in kind to your post. Autumn Jan 2020 #144

"Cute and adorable" ehrnst Jan 2020 #145

yeah, that ought to convince her. unblock Jan 2020 #2

She is one fiesty woman. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #6

i remember seeing her on 60 minutes unblock Jan 2020 #10

This might explain his hostility towards her now. R B Garr Jan 2020 #4

You nailed it, R B. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #9

My Mom and Sister have said the same. TheRealNorth Jan 2020 #5

He stokes those concerns, IMO. n/t LisaM Jan 2020 #8

How is Bernie stoking those concerns? TheRealNorth Jan 2020 #66

Clinton got 3 million more votes than hrrump demosincebirth Jan 2020 #119

A male candidate saying that to a colleague who is potential competitor is quite another thing. ehrnst Jan 2020 #135

Stupid people . . . Aussie105 Jan 2020 #7

Bernie strongly urged a Female to run for President in 2015 ritapria Jan 2020 #11

He also urged Warren not to run this time around... W_HAMILTON Jan 2020 #12

Nailed it. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #22

Ding ding ding, we have a winner. The biggest threat to Sanders among progressives is Warren still_one Jan 2020 #77

That was before 2016 democrattotheend Jan 2020 #14

Sorry. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #25

I don't dispute that Bernie probably said it democrattotheend Jan 2020 #37

The meeting took place in December of 18...just before they announced. So no. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #46

Um... someone she knew in 2018 that she didn't hire to be on her campaign? ehrnst Jan 2020 #183

That was Neil Cavuto (and a guest) on Fox in 2008. N/T lapucelle Jan 2020 #31

Hmmm, for some reason I thought it was Chuck Todd or Chris Matthews who said that democrattotheend Jan 2020 #34

Link? sheshe2 Jan 2020 #16

I don't deny that Bernie said it democrattotheend Jan 2020 #36

The only thing that beat Hill was Russian interfernce. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #103

It certainly does promote a certain agenda to insist that Hillary lost, and it wasn't stolen. ehrnst Jan 2020 #148

It depends how you define stolen democrattotheend Jan 2020 #168

I think that the election was stolen from the clear winner, and would have had a much greater ehrnst Jan 2020 #170

Of course I doubt her word. Loki Liesmith Jan 2020 #60

Since you doubt both of them... sheshe2 Jan 2020 #92

That's not how doubt works Loki Liesmith Jan 2020 #95

Okay. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #100

+1000. ehrnst Jan 2020 #171

Thank you. nt sheshe2 Jan 2020 #173

How would lying to her friends about the conversation when it happened, before she announced ehrnst Jan 2020 #137

Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2020 #138

Another fact free hot take BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #125

But he reversed course in 2018....clearly. ehrnst Jan 2020 #136

But a grumpy old man can? MineralMan Jan 2020 #13

Something real fishy about this, right around the time Bernie is surging SmallDonor Jan 2020 #15

Well he said this a long time ago. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #18

Indeed. Bernie did a reeeeallllly quick about face on Cenk Uyghur - in way less than 3 years. ehrnst Jan 2020 #182

He is not surging. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #82

Except that he's not "surging", he's actually dropping and Biden is ahead in IA, NH, NV, and SC. George II Jan 2020 #87

Oh, Bernie is always surging. I know because I read it on DU all the time. Also, he is the Squinch Jan 2020 #127

A woman did win mcar Jan 2020 #17

You got it! sheshe2 Jan 2020 #19

+3,000,000 Pachamama Jan 2020 #120

Warren has a lot more credibility than Sanders in my book. comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #20

Thank you, comradebillyboy. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #104

Evidently the BS campaign is doubling or tripling down.. Cha Jan 2020 #21

Thank you, Cha. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #41

Exactly, she.. we know who BS' "senior advisors" Cha Jan 2020 #79

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #62

Welcome to DU !! GP6971 Jan 2020 #64

Women have a lot of stamina. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #84

Why did you sigh up to DU to call out a long term poster? sheshe2 Jan 2020 #90

I actually really like random trivia like that ... and that's a really impressive clip, I'll add mr_lebowski Jan 2020 #114

Yes she made posts every 40 minutes for 18 years, napping for 15 minutes between each! George II Jan 2020 #176

Bwahahahaha sheshe2 Jan 2020 #177

Speaking of numbers (since you're calculating how frequently people here post), you said this.... George II Jan 2020 #93

Bazinga. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #102

A lot of them were Schizophrenic, you know: one manifestation, one vote ... marble falls Jan 2020 #107

Miscalculator.. Cha Jan 2020 #115

Those maths... ehrnst Jan 2020 #175

Do you call out people you don't know on the other sites you post on? marble falls Jan 2020 #105

Well marble falls. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #109

Its obsessive compulsive I know, I take drugs for it. Just not the ones the doctor prescribed! marble falls Jan 2020 #110

27K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sheshe2 Jan 2020 #112

Co-incidently the same total of the deductable I've paid the doctor! ... marble falls Jan 2020 #113

Someone who says 'You can't do that!' Aussie105 Jan 2020 #23

We see that opinion posted here day in and day out MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #24

If Warren is the nominee, we'll lose by 45 states... Back slap, agree, agree, bazinga, ad nauseum. Aussie105 Jan 2020 #26

Um yeah, you're going to have to ask the people making MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #32

She's my choice if it's not Sen Sanders Rollerman Jan 2020 #28

Welp, Merry. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #38

It's both on the 45 state loss. I'm getting supper on now, MerryBlooms Jan 2020 #40

Do supper and take care of you sister. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #43

✔️ blm Jan 2020 #81

Donkey Dust! A Socialist cannot win. But a Socialist can whine. WheelWalker Jan 2020 #27

lol @ "donkey dust".. Cha Jan 2020 #126

I'm sure this won't last. but if it does no progressive in the WH. and that's sad. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #30

+1 Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #45

A woman beat him last time, and the orange wonder too! redstatebluegirl Jan 2020 #33

Hillary won the most votes in 2016, by several million dlk Jan 2020 #39

+++ still_one Jan 2020 #83

Sounds like she made a backroom deal. Darkhawk32 Jan 2020 #42

Sorry, Dark. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #49

I hope I'm wrong. n/t Darkhawk32 Jan 2020 #51

I think you are. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #63

I think that's why she's a target of Sanders supporters... ehrnst Jan 2020 #181

Oddly all these attacks .. relayerbob Jan 2020 #52

He's leading in many state polls. Your theory makes no sense. Darkhawk32 Jan 2020 #54

"Leading", assuming you cherry pick your polls relayerbob Jan 2020 #65

and it is all within the margin of error still_one Jan 2020 #86

Above Warren by a small margin and behind Joe. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #96

Umhm. nt sheshe2 Jan 2020 #94

LIKE YOU SAID,,,,, Sanders seem like he's getting desperate. I JUST DONATED TO Liz !!!!!!! trueblue2007 Jan 2020 #101

She does NOT make backroom deals. BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 #149

Thank you, Blue. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #158

I'm thinking . . . Aussie105 Jan 2020 #44

Same shit, different day relayerbob Jan 2020 #47

Neither can a black man be elected. SCVDem Jan 2020 #48

Perhaps Ambassador to the Vatican? crazytown Jan 2020 #50

This infighting isn't doing us any good. cwydro Jan 2020 #55

She's currently running third in most polls so he's correct thus far. Things could change over the jalan48 Jan 2020 #56

No he isn't. First of all it is within the margin of error, and second, ASSUMING that because still_one Jan 2020 #88

And a black candadate can't win either, ask Barrack Obama. I can not believe Bernie ... marble falls Jan 2020 #57

+++ still_one Jan 2020 #89

Nancy Pelosi beats Trump. Every day. OMGWTF Jan 2020 #58

Look At The Way He Treats Women Me. Jan 2020 #67

.. Cha Jan 2020 #80

Except one already did grantcart Jan 2020 #68

This. BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 #150

Mortal sin....bring out the circular firing squad please.... Hulk Jan 2020 #69

She confirmed the conversation. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #78

It is an important issue regarding not only how a candidate views a woman's standing in society, but still_one Jan 2020 #91

Right now the Bots are winning Sucha NastyWoman Jan 2020 #71

He was s very right. If you live in a red state like I do now Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #72

Sorry but if any other male candidate MontanaMama Jan 2020 #74

Damn right. apcalc Jan 2020 #141

I just donated to Warren xyoungblood Jan 2020 #75

A woman did win. She was cheated, however, out of the presidency. emmaverybo Jan 2020 #85

i can't stand him. ... doesn't have MY vote that's for sure trueblue2007 Jan 2020 #97

Corporate is fighting back, and Stellar Jan 2020 #98

It's a statement that's in poor taste. This is why Bernie is denying he ever said it. Warren won't Skya Rhen Jan 2020 #99

NEW statement from Elizabeth Warren on her meeting with Bernie Sanders: Gothmog Jan 2020 #106

Thank you, Gothmog. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #159

Everybody knows he thinks Democrats focus too much on "identity politics" and have no betsuni Jan 2020 #116

Brava betsuni! sheshe2 Jan 2020 #160

Interestingly, if you parse Bernie's 'denial' ... it's actually a non-denial ... mr_lebowski Jan 2020 #118

But At The End of The Day. YOU Better Support Bernie TomCADem Jan 2020 #121

Elizabeth Warren is lying. Eric J in MN Jan 2020 #122

That's a remarkable logical fallacy Hav Jan 2020 #128

Bernie Sanders did 41 events for Hillary Clinton in 2016. Eric J in MN Jan 2020 #184

Exactly what he says now, it's not good enough, etc. betsuni Jan 2020 #129

That is NOT the conversation that BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 #151

+1000 sheshe2 Jan 2020 #161

Hi ss2! BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 #162

We're now seeing Bernie's true colors BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #123

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #130

This. Skidmore Jan 2020 #131

Thank you for that, Skidmore. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #163

"It is not good enough for somebody to say, 'I'm a man, vote for me.' No That is not good enough," ehrnst Jan 2020 #132

+++ sheshe2 Jan 2020 #165

I believe that Bernie was remarking on the how anti-woman the political climate is Tarc Jan 2020 #139

Even Morning Joe does not believe Bernie said this, and neither do I. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #140

So why do you think Warren told associates he did after she had the conversation with him? ehrnst Jan 2020 #146

Because she's down in the polls and is trying to take him out. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #155

Um... in December 2018? ehrnst Jan 2020 #156

He was asking her to run in 2016. Whey do you think he would have said that to her in 2018. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #157

So you're going to evade my post correcting you and asking you that question again ehrnst Jan 2020 #166

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #167

So you have no reason that you'll share. ehrnst Jan 2020 #169

Thank you, ehrnst! sheshe2 Jan 2020 #172

Ah, so now Morning Joe is the BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 #152

That's the point. He never says anything good about Bernie, but he still thinks its bull. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #154

Your analysis of what happened might be a bit simplistic. totodeinhere Jan 2020 #164

Which candidate do you think is doing more "grasping" at this point? ehrnst Jan 2020 #174

I don't know but I don't support it coming from any candidate. n/t totodeinhere Jan 2020 #178

I only see it coming from one, and his supporters and surrogates. ehrnst Jan 2020 #180

Misogyny at its finest nt NYMinute Jan 2020 #179

Actually, so sayeth Warren... joeaddison Jan 2020 #185