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In reply to the discussion: Bottom line problem: No black or brown person will be on any primary ballot [View all]Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)99. Excellent post
Especially liked this
But the systems, often unintentionally, perpetuate exclusion while on the surface appearing to be innocuous.
Insights into boring innocuous systems is a beautiful thing even when the insight is about an ugly problem.
I dont like the year long run up to primary elections. Its tempting to think that the time is needed to raise cash for the general election but has anyone built up a war chest?
One alternative is to have 20 candidates still in the race for the first primaries. That would definitely broaden the field, keep more excitement, and also alleviate some of the negative stuff flying back and forth as the front runners scramble for the nomination.
But would 20 candidates on the ballot be better than a coin toss?
Its not just that no one has voted. Google says that 6, 9, and 14 million people watched the debates. Double those numbers to cover people who preferred to read and its still a fraction of voters.
Numbers like 6 million viewers make me think it is the political junkies who are paying attention. Theyll stay interested no matter the format.
My most important quality in a candidate was being a great speaker and sales person. Policy differences dont matter if we dont win the presidency and the senate and even then we only get what can pass congress.
Id rather see smaller groups of candidates discussing Democratic policy broadly with semi hostile groups of swing state voters. Harder to get a national audience but the 6 million viewers would likely watch youtube. We might also get more sound bites on the news. I dont care who wins in a democratic venue. I want to know who wins more broadly.
Do we really still need primary elections ? Couldnt the DNC set up secure voting for registered Democrats and couldnt we have ranked voting multiple times throughout? At least use that for the culling rather than polling. We could still do the old style primary votes after.
Sorry for rambling and much of it wasnt on your point, but those are some of the edges I see in the system.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Bottom line problem: No black or brown person will be on any primary ballot [View all]
StarfishSaver
Jan 2020
OP
I guess some people aren't interested in an intelligent discussion about an important topic
StarfishSaver
Jan 2020
#2
I agree with you but I think the initial reluctance by black electeds to back Obama...
negromiconomics
Jan 2020
#79
I suspect you're right, but the reply is still problematic to me even as sarcasm.
Pacifist Patriot
Jan 2020
#36
I'm glad you posted this. Our government needs to look like the people it serves.
PatrickforO
Jan 2020
#12
The voters had plenty of choices, and they made the decisions of who they supported.
Autumn
Jan 2020
#14
The likely voters have made their choice of who they support going forward in the primaries.
Autumn
Jan 2020
#26
I hope he doesn't win...he has serious issues ...and I mean the brother in law thing... would not
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#56
You are correct but already written off it seems...well I am not sorry for that.
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#68
When did Deval Patrick drop out of the race, StarfishSaver? I await your response.
Skya Rhen
Jan 2020
#18
African Americans, in large numbers, support Biden based on the content of his character,
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2020
#33
I don't expect anyone to do anything; I just think that that racism, against anyone, is sad
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2020
#45
No, I didn't; I'm just tired of continued attempts to make this something it isn't
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2020
#60
Of course you don't think you missed the point. That's because you missed the point.
StarfishSaver
Jan 2020
#67
I ask again, Should Suzanne Atanus have been guaranteed a spot in the primary?
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2020
#70
The only "selection decisions" that have been made have been by the candidates themselves
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2020
#52
I don't know how to fix it. But we need to discuss it honestly and figure out solutions.
StarfishSaver
Jan 2020
#81
Actually, we started with three hundred and six, which underscores your point
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2020
#53
How many African American voters are racists, since so many are supporting Biden?
brooklynite
Jan 2020
#73
I agree 100%. I am tired of the explanation that there are no PoC and fewer women ...
marble falls
Jan 2020
#84
It is a problem. A very big problem. I am beginning to look at Rachel Dolezal ...
marble falls
Jan 2020
#61
The media polling/debate access issue is a major problem, with or without race/gender connotations.
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2020
#87
Myself, I regret that there is no person of color among our top tier of candidates.
totodeinhere
Jan 2020
#96
A black female candidate shouldn't have to be a former First Lady in order to have a chance
StarfishSaver
Jan 2020
#106
As an AA, I can say that we have the most to lose if Trump is reelected - this isn't a game for us.
Skya Rhen
Jan 2020
#104
If you don't use polls, what criteria would you use? Why should it be assumed that
still_one
Jan 2020
#107
Deval Patrick, a black candidate, will be in the actual primary elections. He hasn't quit.
Skya Rhen
Jan 2020
#112
I definitely agree with you regarding the calender for the primary should be moved to states that
still_one
Jan 2020
#118
Without thresholds around polling and fundraising, how do we distinguish Lee Mercer Jr
tritsofme
Jan 2020
#136
The reason is a lack of minorities in politics (due to racism) to give us top-tier candidates.
Doodley
Jan 2020
#128
Right-wingers derided Barack Obama as the "affirmative action president". We rightly disregarded
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2020
#140
I, and others, have asked how you would change the system, given the large
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2020
#143
From the "How to Be An Ally as Long as it's Convenient and Not in any Way Uncomfortable" Handbook
StarfishSaver
Jan 2020
#146
And if I refuse to name other communists, it proves I'm a communist; it's called a witch hunt
LongtimeAZDem
Jan 2020
#151
I hear you - but the amount of black support they had is beside the point
StarfishSaver
Jan 2020
#148