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In reply to the discussion: The Liberal case against Bernie [View all]mcar
(46,303 posts)9. This is an important read
I held some of the same views myself as a young man, but I am not running for president. And if I ever thought I might, I probably wouldnt have agreed to attend a rally in 1985 in Managua, Nicaragua, with a crowd chanting, Here, there, everywhere, the Yankee will die, while the Nicaraguan president, Daniel Ortega, condemned my countrys state terrorism (accurate as the term was).
I mention this appearance because, according to reporting by journalist Kurt Eichenwald, Republicans have it and similar events on tape. They also have binders full of statements made in support of the kind of socialism that Sanders backed before he became what he is today: a typical New Dealstyle liberal or European social democrat. Much of Sanderss agenda is popular, but calling yourself a socialist is, according to recent polls, a losing proposition74 percent of independent voters disapprove of it, with just 9 percent approving.
Sanders consistently speaks of the political revolution that he expects will carry his campaign across the finish line. He is, however, a candidate with views that, like mine, are to the left of the American center, wherever that may be. He is also a candidate who will be 79 years old in January 2021; who refuses (thus far) to release his tax returns and thereby robs the Democrats of a potent weapon against Trump; and who cannot even bring himself to become a member of the party whose presidential nomination he seeks. (Insert Groucho Marx joke here.) And Ive not even mentioned his weakness, relative to Clinton, with crucial Democratic constituencies like African Americans and women. We can also count out the many voters who are uncomfortable with criticism of Israel (much as I admire Sanders for that).
I mention this appearance because, according to reporting by journalist Kurt Eichenwald, Republicans have it and similar events on tape. They also have binders full of statements made in support of the kind of socialism that Sanders backed before he became what he is today: a typical New Dealstyle liberal or European social democrat. Much of Sanderss agenda is popular, but calling yourself a socialist is, according to recent polls, a losing proposition74 percent of independent voters disapprove of it, with just 9 percent approving.
Sanders consistently speaks of the political revolution that he expects will carry his campaign across the finish line. He is, however, a candidate with views that, like mine, are to the left of the American center, wherever that may be. He is also a candidate who will be 79 years old in January 2021; who refuses (thus far) to release his tax returns and thereby robs the Democrats of a potent weapon against Trump; and who cannot even bring himself to become a member of the party whose presidential nomination he seeks. (Insert Groucho Marx joke here.) And Ive not even mentioned his weakness, relative to Clinton, with crucial Democratic constituencies like African Americans and women. We can also count out the many voters who are uncomfortable with criticism of Israel (much as I admire Sanders for that).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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I'm sorry...converting 88% of your base to vote for someone else is pretty damn good...
TCJ70
Apr 2019
#112
I'm not saying he isn't liberal but the title claims a liberal case or argument
aikoaiko
Mar 2019
#8
He alluded, implied, and suggested that she was "corrupt" while at the same time
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#31
I saw a ton of negativity at the Texas state convention and the national convention
Gothmog
Apr 2019
#100
The negatives of the delivery and the constant harangue over the Democratic Party
peggysue2
Apr 2019
#97
And I'm sure it didn't help that Bernie didn't' do any campaigning for Hillary in July, or August,
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#32
The problem with anecdotal evidence is that it waries widely, representing all view points
Tom Rinaldo
Mar 2019
#48
It's a self-imposed hell. The good news is the door to that hell is open. You can leave at any time.
progressoid
Mar 2019
#57
"Google searches about WikiLeaks were particularly high in swing areas with large numbers
betsuni
Mar 2019
#64
Like every woman has learned - if you say something among men, it will be ignored
ehrnst
Mar 2019
#50
From the smallest church committee school board meetings to the national platform,
efhmc
Mar 2019
#66
According to some of you, Bernie just running is some terrible attack on the party
Kentonio
Mar 2019
#41
You're right, it is a pointless argument ... you see criticism of BS as bashing
SFnomad
Mar 2019
#85
You might want to take note ... you replied to my post. I didn't engage with you
SFnomad
Apr 2019
#89
This appears to be more of a case of "if the shoe fits," than people actually "insulting."
ehrnst
Mar 2019
#53
Honestly, I think everything will calm down significantly once Bernie bows out.
ecstatic
Apr 2019
#117