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mr_lebowski

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114. Did I EVER mention Joe Biden, or justify what he did?

Fri Mar 29, 2019, 11:51 PM

Mar 2019

NO.

I responded to a specific post stating there's NO DIFFERENCE with who it is, or what the situation is, EVER, in terms of how a woman will perceive ... a relatively minor violation of their personal space.

I claimed ... basically I have a hard time understanding that assertion. I admitted that I may very well may not, due to being a male.

You can call it ridiculous scenario all you want, what I did was what's called 'proving my point via illustration'.

It illustrates the ONE AND ONLY point I was making.

Let me make the same point another way ... not so ridiculous ... would every lady on this thread be SO disgusted ... if it had been Obama instead of Biden? I mean, yeah, you'd still be as disappointed, probably, but ... you might well guess that she COULD feel different about the two experiences ... couldn't you?

Look, you can deny if you want, but I'm fairly sure ... it actually does matter somewhat 'who it is' and it does matter 'the scenario'. EVERY stranger ... in every scenario ... does not 'feel' the same way. Hence my illustration.

Only point I'm trying to make. Not trying to say 'well, it's okay for men to assume that they are so great they can do whatever they want'. To be VERY CLEAR, I don't mean that, sister

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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BREAKING: Ex-Nevada Dem Assemblywoman Accuses Joe Biden of 'Blatantly Inappropriate & Unnerving'... [View all] DonViejo Mar 2019 OP

Oh boy........ CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2019 #1

I don't know either Tom Rinaldo Mar 2019 #10

"Relatively minor?" Seriously? Tipperary Mar 2019 #72

If true, is hardly minor... but, it's only fair to hear Joe's side of the story. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #79

Essays are hardly minor either. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #89

Whataboutism!!! Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #121

Relative to much more horrendous acts is all I meant by that Tom Rinaldo Mar 2019 #116

This message was self-deleted by its author CentralMass Mar 2019 #12

How do you know if it is even true? nt BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #60

Oh boy. How long before media asks Gillibrand about this. Funtatlaguy Mar 2019 #2

Oh boy. How long before media asks Gillibrand about this. LenaBaby61 Mar 2019 #50

What do you think KG would say? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #90

Who knows? But I bet she would be the first to say it. Funtatlaguy Mar 2019 #98

Say what? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #126

Lol ! OnDoutside Mar 2019 #127

I've heard Republicans frequently talk about him doing things like this; Shell_Seas Mar 2019 #3

He would make a good president, but it does you no good if you can't get there. RDANGELO Mar 2019 #4

There's a definite pattern. It's possible for Joe Biden to be a good person who has great policy WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #5

+1 Kurt V. Mar 2019 #51

There is a definite pattern? BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #62

Unfortunately jberryhill Mar 2019 #81

There is a YouTube video showing many instances of Joe at140 Mar 2019 #102

Not all adult females either. Some on LibDemAlways Mar 2019 #113

Agreed. Merlot Mar 2019 #154

Ok Loki Liesmith Mar 2019 #6

That is very creepy. madaboutharry Mar 2019 #7

"For a woman on the receiving end of this there is no difference." WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #11

Huh ... obviously I'm not a woman so I can't be 100%, but ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #52

It is pity that some men don't understand that madaboutharry Mar 2019 #55

I believe 100% that's 100% true of many if not most women ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #57

Whoa. Tipperary Mar 2019 #74

Clearly, I'm not a female ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #94

just, eeeew shanny Mar 2019 #96

Okay, Sassy-Pants ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #104

Save it dude. shanny Mar 2019 #111

Did I EVER mention Joe Biden, or justify what he did? mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #114

the thread is about Biden, and his alleged behavior shanny Mar 2019 #117

Honestly this is a huge problem dsc Mar 2019 #8

True or false? BlueJac Mar 2019 #9

I almost posted, "Jeeez, we're going to have to nominate a Priest." Hoyt Mar 2019 #13

I've always liked Joe, but there's an entire internet rabbit hole that one could fall into SaschaHM Mar 2019 #14

These incidents should have disqualified him years ago: George II Mar 2019 #156

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #15

It's possible for people you like to harass people you don't like. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #16

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #19

I know that if I reported a co-worker for rubbing my shoulders and smelling my hair there WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #22

You're Wrong, Lucy Flores.. and Cha Mar 2019 #20

No surprise here. The biggest threat to Sanders is Biden, so I have no doubt they are going to play still_one Mar 2019 #35

Lol. This is Bernie's fault? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #106

That was pretty hilarious, I gotta admit. shanny Mar 2019 #118

And so it begins ... lillypaddle Mar 2019 #17

Are there other instances to corroborate, show a pattern? Amimnoch Mar 2019 #18

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #21

It was a total meme during the Obama/Biden administration that Uncle Joe was adorably handsy. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #23

Damn, I hadn't heard of that :( Amimnoch Mar 2019 #28

Here's an example: WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #31

Debunked by Ash Carter. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #41

Neither that doctored photo nor the term "grope" appears in the Buzzfeed link I posted. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #42

From the link. Both Ash and Stephanie are on record. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #43

Fair enough. It's still a bad look, and is one of many examples of him being touchy when the WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #44

That's not a "bad look". OilemFirchen Mar 2019 #48

The video exists VoicesAcrossAmerica Mar 2019 #122

That hand is fake. True Blue American Mar 2019 #129

Wow. That is creepy. OilemFirchen Mar 2019 #47

Yeah, I know what you mean.. Cha Mar 2019 #24

My view is that there are 2 possibilities. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #30

There's also option #3: John Fante Mar 2019 #83

If it happened, guillaumeb Apr 2019 #163

She herself said it didn't rise to the level of sexual assault. John Fante Apr 2019 #165

So you question her motivation? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #169

I'll go with "She is not lying". It is puzzling, however, lapucelle Mar 2019 #99

Thread win! sheshe2 Mar 2019 #109

If the candidate, Bernie Sanders, guillaumeb Apr 2019 #164

Flores continued to work on a campaign knowing that discrimination, predation, harassment, lapucelle Apr 2019 #168

Yes, there have been allegations. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #170

In my view, if an organization is characterized by a pervasive, predatory culture lapucelle Apr 2019 #172

Understood. And well argued. eom guillaumeb Apr 2019 #173

I am good friends with a former sanders supporter named Sarah Slamen Gothmog Apr 2019 #174

There is a photo of him smelling Longoria's hair VoicesAcrossAmerica Mar 2019 #123

+1,000,000 nt BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #61

His response is in the Huffington Post at the end of the article still_one Mar 2019 #78

Search it on youtube. roody Mar 2019 #88

And that! is another chapter in her story. nt GemDigger Mar 2019 #103

Joe's campaign over before it started Otto Lidenbrock Mar 2019 #25

Cool story, bro. John Fante Mar 2019 #84

They all have baggage. The Republicans will distort and destroy any Dem who's nominated emulatorloo Mar 2019 #133

Just don't run, Joe. BlueStater Mar 2019 #26

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #27

I've always found the narrative that only Biden can beat him to be total bullshit. BlueStater Mar 2019 #29

If Bernie Sanders doesn't run, then I am all for that, but since Sanders is running, and appointing still_one Mar 2019 #39

Same here True Blue American Mar 2019 #148

Same goes for Cha Mar 2019 #45

Fine by me. BlueStater Mar 2019 #59

+1 shanny Mar 2019 #119

Sounds serious. As serious as when she approved Assange's theft of HRC emails. Hassler Mar 2019 #32

Been waiting for this to start Socal31 Mar 2019 #33

Putin enid602 Mar 2019 #34

I don't think so. This is coming right out of the Sanders scorch and burn polciy the moment he still_one Mar 2019 #40

+1. It's pretty obvious dalton99a Mar 2019 #64

Yes, thank you. It's very obvious. R B Garr Mar 2019 #100

I thought she sounded famliar. RandySF Mar 2019 #36

Ohhhh, so the accuser supported Bernie... well, THAT changes EVERYTHING!! Puhleeease!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #80

lol you don't think the fact that she is a Bernie Sanders supporter isn't relevant at all? Drunken Irishman Mar 2019 #97

Not this again... we should encourage all women to come forward AND let's give Joe a fair hearing. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #125

What charges? Drunken Irishman Mar 2019 #150

Look at Sirota's stealth campaign. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #107

UGGHHHHHHHHHH!!! This story hurts my heart. nt jezebel321 Mar 2019 #37

#facknews ! stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #38

If this is true Andy823 Mar 2019 #46

It's better to address it now than later if he were to get the nomination. LenaBaby61 Mar 2019 #53

The optics are terrible. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #49

There any video from the event yet? madville Mar 2019 #54

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #69

Here is Biden's response still_one Mar 2019 #71

Photo of him smelling Eva Longoria's Hair from same event VoicesAcrossAmerica Mar 2019 #124

LOL Luvapottamus Mar 2019 #152

Well, she does advertise shampoo... Rhiannon12866 Apr 2019 #162

Just damn. RGinNJ Mar 2019 #56

This explains it all BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #58

This is not news, this creeper behavior is pnwest Mar 2019 #63

I know Lucy Flores is/was a Sanders supporter and I am the farthest thing from a Sanders supporter seaglass Mar 2019 #65

Mediaite has a clear bias BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #66

again? stillcool Mar 2019 #67

Some people are... Mike Nelson Mar 2019 #68

Here is the response still_one Mar 2019 #70

Wow.. is there a link Cha Mar 2019 #73

It is Huffington Post, they list it at the very end of the article still_one Mar 2019 #75

Thank You! Cha Mar 2019 #86

The twitter feed gives more complete statement still_one Mar 2019 #87

I read it.. thanks. Cha Mar 2019 #91

so am I. still_one Mar 2019 #92

In the original OP they also provide comments. Click on twitter link for complete comment still_one Mar 2019 #82

Click on the twitter link below for the complete comment still_one Mar 2019 #85

I would feel just a tad bit better if he were to say "that did not happen." Tipperary Mar 2019 #76

This proves that Russia is scared of Biden. The first major candidate to get kompromat. McCamy Taylor Mar 2019 #77

Not only Russia, perhaps another campaign is also concerned about Biden's stance in the polls still_one Mar 2019 #93

+1000 Thekaspervote Mar 2019 #108

I've been telling people this would happen Renew Deal Mar 2019 #95

+1 shanny Mar 2019 #120

Boy, Barack Obama sure had lousy judgment Mme. Defarge Mar 2019 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author WeekiWater Mar 2019 #105

The right has been trying to make this a thing for some time treestar Mar 2019 #110

Biden and Sanders have issues few want to address. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #112

Did the people questioning Ms. Flores' veracity or claiming it's a Putin/Sanders hit job... brooklynite Mar 2019 #115

No, it is True Blue American Mar 2019 #128

Again, what reason would she have to make this up? brooklynite Mar 2019 #130

The company she keeps. True Blue American Mar 2019 #131

So any woman that supports Bernie Sanders is suspect? Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #136

With the staff he has and the dirty tricks True Blue American Mar 2019 #138

You have a mighty big brush. Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #143

I was aked my opinion,gave it, based on what I know True Blue American Mar 2019 #144

Well it seems to me that your opinion of "yes, any woman that supports Bernie Sanders is suspect" Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #145

I will give you another opinion True Blue American Mar 2019 #147

Well that's the wonderful thing about America, everyone is entitled to their own political opinion, Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #149

I believe her story is true. I don't believe Biden is a pervert or molester emulatorloo Mar 2019 #134

I think there are two issues here. First, is this a real story or is she making it up. hughee99 Mar 2019 #132

Taking Biden out also helps Trump madville Mar 2019 #135

Taking Biden out here helps everyone in the Dem Primary too. hughee99 Mar 2019 #137

I don't think Putin needs to do anything, we are going to eat our own madville Mar 2019 #140

I don't think he does either. I think the carnage has started already. hughee99 Mar 2019 #142

I feel like we are heading to a perfect storm madville Mar 2019 #146

I think that's the scenario they fear most, and it's certainly possible. Nt hughee99 Mar 2019 #151

We are True Blue American Mar 2019 #139

She also happens to be an original member of the Board of Our Revolution!! George II Mar 2019 #155

As much as I don't care for OR's politics, are you aware of any instance of them lying... brooklynite Mar 2019 #157

They ran some pretty sleazy campaigns in the Democratic primaries last year, particularly.... George II Mar 2019 #158

Only when their lips are moving,,.terrible group,. She is a Sanders supporter Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #160

She said he touched her shoulders and kissed the back of her head. David__77 Mar 2019 #141

Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #153

A few minutes after the alleged incident: George II Mar 2019 #159

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #161

From the sponsor of the event Gothmog Apr 2019 #166

im sick of insecure ppl who go out of their way to get a little attention.... samnsara Apr 2019 #167

I agree. Goodheart Apr 2019 #171