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In reply to the discussion: Joe Biden's Vote for War [View all]booley
(3,855 posts)43. Biden wanted to remove Saddam years before the Iraq Invasion
Regime change was official US policy for Iraq. And Biden agreed with that policy.
Bidens earlier suggestion that taking Saddam down was the only way to guarantee an end to the WMD program left little doubt where Biden would later come down on the issue.
Bidens grilling of Ritter is important because it gives context to claims Biden later made: First, that when he voted in favor of the invasion of Iraq as a senator, he did not mean to vote for war, but hoped the resolution would empower inspectors to get back into Iraq and monitor the program. And second, that he never believed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
On the first claim, Biden told NPR last year that former President George W. Bush looked me in the eye in the Oval Office. He said he needed the vote to be able to get inspectors into Iraq to determine whether or not Saddam Hussein was engaged in dealing with a nuclear program. He got them in and before you know it, we had shock and awe.
But according to Bidens own statements in 1998, he believed that Hussein could never be trusted to eliminate his program, no matter how many inspectors were admitted.
In October 2004, by which time it had become clear there were no WMDs, Biden told an audience at the Council on Foreign Relations, I never believed they had weapons of mass destruction.
In fact, as Biden had said in 1998, he believed not only that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, but no amount of inspections or diplomacy could guarantee their removal. That, he told Ritter, could only be done by guys like you in uniform to be back on foot in the desert taking this son of a taking Saddam down.
Bidens grilling of Ritter is important because it gives context to claims Biden later made: First, that when he voted in favor of the invasion of Iraq as a senator, he did not mean to vote for war, but hoped the resolution would empower inspectors to get back into Iraq and monitor the program. And second, that he never believed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
On the first claim, Biden told NPR last year that former President George W. Bush looked me in the eye in the Oval Office. He said he needed the vote to be able to get inspectors into Iraq to determine whether or not Saddam Hussein was engaged in dealing with a nuclear program. He got them in and before you know it, we had shock and awe.
But according to Bidens own statements in 1998, he believed that Hussein could never be trusted to eliminate his program, no matter how many inspectors were admitted.
In October 2004, by which time it had become clear there were no WMDs, Biden told an audience at the Council on Foreign Relations, I never believed they had weapons of mass destruction.
In fact, as Biden had said in 1998, he believed not only that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, but no amount of inspections or diplomacy could guarantee their removal. That, he told Ritter, could only be done by guys like you in uniform to be back on foot in the desert taking this son of a taking Saddam down.
https://theintercept.com/2020/01/07/joe-biden-iraq-war-history/
And if we look at what Biden was saying in 2003, he makes it clear he did not regret that vote, he would have done it again. (as he explains here at 15:34 in) His problem wasn't' the invasion. His problem was how the Bush administration handled the occupation and rebuilding afterword.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?177659-1/us-policy-iraq
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Hillary Voted for The Iraq Invasion. It was an infection of the Senate at the time.
Opel_Justwax
Jan 2020
#1
It wasn't a vote for war. This has been brought up a dozen times in the last few weeks....
George II
Jan 2020
#3
No they (me) didn't, it's revisionist history to read the minds of "everyone".
George II
Jan 2020
#7
We here knew. If we knew, they knew. Those who voted for it voted for their own interests. nt
Autumn
Jan 2020
#15
Bernie sure knew it!! We need a President with sound foreign policy judgment...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2020
#37
The authorization wouldn't have passed if enough senators had the guts to vote against it.
Voltaire2
Jan 2020
#9
What's interesting is that this seems to be the only issue that people can bash Biden about....
George II
Jan 2020
#26
He wanted a MORE restrictive bill, i.e., even more controls on bush's "authority"...
George II
Jan 2020
#16
He and others in both parties on the SFRC committee scrambled because they wanted a better resolutio
karynnj
Jan 2020
#25
Obviously it was. But the terms of the bill were violated. NO ONE could anticipate that!
George II
Jan 2020
#27
Senator Sanders voted for the money for the war. Without the money, there would be no war. nt
Blue_true
Jan 2020
#21
Yes, our troops would have had to have been withdrawn without that funding. It's like so many....
George II
Jan 2020
#28
It's Thursday, that article and bash on Biden hasn't been posted for a couple of days. It's overdue.
George II
Jan 2020
#17
OMG, Biden was one of 77 senators including 29 Democrats who voted for that! That shows
highplainsdem
Jan 2020
#42
So you're saying Joe Biden was stupid or would let people die just to keep his job? Alrighty then.
zackymilly
Jan 2020
#62
"I trust Bush," was apparently also the mindset behind the 2001 vote for AUMF...
ehrnst
Jan 2020
#57
No one cares about this issue anymore except some devotees determined to hurt Democrats
NYMinute
Jan 2020
#56
Joe made a mistake, period the end. He acknowledged that and has worked tirelessly to end the war.
lark
Jan 2020
#60
Barbara Lee is someone who was right on this and the preceding war authorization.
David__77
Jan 2020
#74