Democratic Primaries

ehrnst

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Fri Jan 17, 2020, 10:39 AM

Jan 2020

Later, that May, he certainly had changed his mind.

https://time.com/4351525/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-emails-superdelegates/

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Did Warren end chances for both her and Bernie? [View all] Prosper Jan 2020 OP

I'm not going to answer. I sincerely hope I'm NOT the only one. It's over. Move on. Ninga Jan 2020 #1

Warren isn't the one who brought this up. yardwork Jan 2020 #2

No good comes out of it and that should have been the guiding light. Prosper Jan 2020 #8

No good comes of women allowing themselves to be pushed around. yardwork Jan 2020 #11

I honestly loved the strength she showed at the end of the of the debate Docreed2003 Jan 2020 #23

That's exactly how I saw it. yardwork Jan 2020 #25

She was fearless. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #105

I totally disagree. She just showed that she can't control her anger, putting those old vsrazdem Jan 2020 #27

You mean the stereotypes you're perpetuating right now? BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #33

No, as someone who marched in New York to get the ERA ratified, it pisses me off to no end vsrazdem Jan 2020 #45

SHE perpetuated the myth? sweetloukillbot Jan 2020 #76

what anger did she display in public? Tumbulu Jan 2020 #106

But, he got angry. And that is not a concern. Bummfuzzle Jan 2020 #107

None. She asked him a direct question. He refused to answer and stalked off. George II Jan 2020 #114

Coloring it like that is what keeps the old, false stereotypes in play. BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #34

There is no coloring it. That is what she did. Hillary never behaved that way. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #47

Maybe Hillary should have. nt jrthin Jan 2020 #51

And misogyny is what Bernie did. BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #52

She got plenty of criticism from people, e.g., for not confronting Trump when spooky3 Jan 2020 #78

Bingo. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2020 #112

Can't control her anger? kcr Jan 2020 #38

Yes, that is why I am so upset about her behavior. That is exactly what people will see, old vsrazdem Jan 2020 #42

Sorry. It's 2020. Women don't need to conform to outdated standards anymore n/t kcr Jan 2020 #43

Sure. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #46

Well kcr Jan 2020 #50

Exactly. Men can blow off but we can't...wtf. nt jrthin Jan 2020 #54

If women raise their voices...why they are angry, shrill...someone here wrote a post about how Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #57

That's not what I saw redstateblues Jan 2020 #127

The only ones who see your stereotype are the ones who want to. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #128

So the fact that Bernie is pretty much in constant yelling mode is ok AJT Jan 2020 #56

Funny how Sanders' anger is never an issue dansolo Jan 2020 #63

Oh it is. But unfortunately, we women are always held to a higher standard. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #64

An implicit admission you hold Bernie to a lower standard. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #129

She held it just fine. He's the one who just couldn't hold back. nolabear Jan 2020 #65

Well that's the way you saw it. I saw it differently. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #66

And so goes America. nolabear Jan 2020 #67

Lol BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #89

Speaking as only one professional woman, I totally agree with you and others spooky3 Jan 2020 #77

+1000. ehrnst Jan 2020 #119

+1...nt SidDithers Jan 2020 #62

+a bazillion spooky3 Jan 2020 #80

+1000 sheshe2 Jan 2020 #95

The results of polling after the debate show that she's gaining speed. ehrnst Jan 2020 #120

Sour grapes much? Wawannabe Jan 2020 #125

No. n/t obnoxiousdrunk Jan 2020 #3

So outright lies by the Sanders camp about deploying neg canvass scripts... moriah Jan 2020 #4

moriah said: "Do not attack the person's preferred choice, instead say you're excited for your cand Prosper Jan 2020 #13

Well, I did 2016 GE canvassing. moriah Jan 2020 #18

I don't think there is a solution. Prosper Jan 2020 #39

I also think it is over for Bernie. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #75

But he does have a sexist past dansolo Jan 2020 #111

Yep, Here in Ohio...I had my daughter wait in the car with her phone-with 911 dialed...I once had a Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #49

good on ya - that must have been tough nt spooky3 Jan 2020 #81

I was terrified...but I always as some here can tell you- have a big mouth... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #98

I can't imagine. Piasladic Jan 2020 #93

He was really scary...and the dog was big...but it was either a bluff or he thought I would Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #99

We are talking about canvassing...you have to fight fire with fire in terms of ads etc. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #53

Bollocks. Playing "what if" is why we have clutching pearls and fainting couches. abqtommy Jan 2020 #5

Any "Bernie Supporter" who voted for Trump... Happy Hoosier Jan 2020 #6

Amen! yardwork Jan 2020 #7

+1000 I don't get involved in the Sanders campaign drama on twitter... but I will say this. I do Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #40

... Wawannabe Jan 2020 #126

Let's hope so. We need to nominate Biden or Klobuchar. scheming daemons Jan 2020 #9

No. They just need to stop giving voice to CNN's desperate grasp for ratings. Nanjeanne Jan 2020 #10

No. But, she opened up a festering wound that people will keep scab-picking. MineralMan Jan 2020 #12

+10000. And this is on him...he hired non-Democrats in critical areas of his campaign who really Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #36

So are we blaming this on the "woman" candidate? Why is it assumed that Warren is the one causing still_one Jan 2020 #14

Any Bernie supporter should be ashamed of themselves if they voted for tRump groundloop Jan 2020 #15

WOW! BooScout Jan 2020 #16

Why is your question putting BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 #17

Do you think it helped Warren to confirm that on TV? Prosper Jan 2020 #22

Do you think it helped Sanders to call Warren a liar on TV? He could have ended with a Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #32

Agreed. I thought he could have explained it without saying it didn't happen. Prosper Jan 2020 #41

How on earth did Bernie "put an end" BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 #82

On the debate with Hillary Bernie said people are sick Prosper Jan 2020 #90

I remember that. BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 #91

+1000. ehrnst Jan 2020 #122

"Bernie Sanders Says Superdelegates Should Consider Hillary Clinton's Email Scandal" ehrnst Jan 2020 #115

Berned! George II Jan 2020 #132

The silence is deafening, isn't it? I know that being shown to be wrong stings... ehrnst Jan 2020 #133

The following May after the debate you reference.... ehrnst Jan 2020 #116

What - no retraction now that you've been corrected on your mistake? ehrnst Jan 2020 #131

I think most of this controversy is a media things. I don't think either Bernie/Warren are walkingman Jan 2020 #19

... LexVegas Jan 2020 #20

If they would only vote for Bernie, and not the Democratic candidate The Mouth Jan 2020 #21

Can't agree more. But did Elizabeth help herself? Prosper Jan 2020 #24

Personal opinion? A bit The Mouth Jan 2020 #30

Although I am more sympathetic to Warren, neither comes out of this comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #70

Time will tell. BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 #83

Yes she did. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #97

Anyone who is gunning for her will think anything she says is "hurting herself." ehrnst Jan 2020 #117

This is all just distracting bullshit Bayard Jan 2020 #26

I still support Elizabeth Warren katmondoo Jan 2020 #28

So after years of denial on the part of Sanders and his campaign, are you saying Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #29

Yes, you AND I would most certainly vote for Elizabeth... & Bernie would advocate for her too. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #31

So Sanders should be the nominee to avoid a 'rift'...why even have a primary then? How about this... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #68

Sometimes there's almost a blackmail tone sweetloukillbot Jan 2020 #79

No question and despite all the hype...I do not think he wins the nomination...let's hope people Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #130

Ah blame the woman BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #35

As a woman, I would be damned if I let a man make a fool of me when I know I am right GemDigger Jan 2020 #37

+1,000,000 George II Jan 2020 #44

Is this an example of "blaming the victim"? Victim shaming? still_one Jan 2020 #48

It sure in the hell sounds like it. nt Quackers Jan 2020 #72

go ahead and vote forTrump if you don't like what has been happening here lapfog_1 Jan 2020 #55

No. nt KPN Jan 2020 #58

Bernie supporters voting for Trump lees1975 Jan 2020 #59

No, my guess is that Bernie didn't ruin either her or his chances. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #60

"So what did Warren think would happen if she cost Bernie the nomination?"... SidDithers Jan 2020 #61

Sid...this! If Sanders loses it is on him...not Warren. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #69

that is kind of odd - and entitled treestar Jan 2020 #71

Yeah - that one doesn't pass the sniff test blm Jan 2020 #94

Bernie has been anointed, don't you know? yardwork Jan 2020 #85

No coronations!!... SidDithers Jan 2020 #86

I don't agree. Warren is the victim in this situation. Blue_true Jan 2020 #73

Sanders action, Warren stands up for herself, Sanders being picked on. Bummfuzzle Jan 2020 #74

About right, IMO. BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 #84

The suggestion that Warren could "cost" BootinUp Jan 2020 #87

Lol. As usual, the woman is being held responsible for the man's behavior and its ramifications. Squinch Jan 2020 #88

I think you can look at this thread... boomer_wv Jan 2020 #92

Disagree 100% with you. Zolorp Jan 2020 #96

End? No... but definitely handicaps. N/T JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2020 #100

Unless Sanders said "women should not run for Prez," the whole thing is not worth Hoyt Jan 2020 #101

Boy you guys are seriously grasping today. Bernie is Bernie's worst enemy. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #102

She did end it for Bernie for sure NYMinute Jan 2020 #103

No, but the truce is over. RandySF Jan 2020 #104

It would really take the cake if were Bernie not to win the nomination he blamed Warren. This emmaverybo Jan 2020 #108

Did Bernie call her a liar on national TV? A-Schwarzenegger Jan 2020 #109

Nah... Senator Sanders is doing whistler162 Jan 2020 #110

To be fair, Bernie fled NY and all the civil unrest for rural Vermont early in the 60's ehrnst Jan 2020 #121

That's funny Hav Jan 2020 #113

Bernie is just as involved, and is the author of his own outcome... ehrnst Jan 2020 #118

This is truth - Warren did NOT bring this up. lark Jan 2020 #123

Funny a Sanders supporter is blaming Warren Wawannabe Jan 2020 #124

Elizabeth Warren made a huge blunder commenting on stage Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2020 #134