Democratic Primaries

ExciteBike66

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12. But that was not your question, which pertained to CIA agents.

Fri Jan 17, 2020, 04:48 PM

Jan 2020

"What if he'd been right" is irrelevant"

Yes, but once again it was your own question that assumed the fact they were CIA. If they were CIA, and indeed were covert CIA agents, then detaining them is certainly something we would expect Iran to do.

b) it's not a justifiable position even if he'd been right.

What exactly would America have done if they suspected 52 Iranian covert agents were in our country? Wouldn't we detain them (answer: yes we would).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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DB: When Iran Took Americans Hostage, Bernie Backed Iran's Defenders [View all] getagrip_already Jan 2020 OP

At that point, was it really so far fetched? It might have been the only major incident that didn't Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #1

defending the seizing of an embassy and taking hostages? getagrip_already Jan 2020 #2

So, you're OK with taking hostages as long as they're CIA agents? TwilightZone Jan 2020 #4

Is there really anything strange about that position? ExciteBike66 Jan 2020 #8

Defending the storming of an embassy and taking hostages TwilightZone Jan 2020 #11

But that was not your question, which pertained to CIA agents. ExciteBike66 Jan 2020 #12

Not by storming an embassy... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #24

Don't you know squirecam Jan 2020 #16

Is astonishing how void of historical context this conversation is Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #23

So, that makes it OK? TwilightZone Jan 2020 #25

No. But looking at it through a historical lens creates far better understanding Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #26

That's all they would need. Check mate. They don't even need to bring up Kahuna7 Jan 2020 #52

"Sanders' stance was based on false information" tishaLA Jan 2020 #56

Lmmfao..."historical context" Docreed2003 Jan 2020 #33

I meant overthrew and attempted to assassinate him Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #35

That's not what I'm saying Docreed2003 Jan 2020 #38

I doubt sanders will have sympathy for his statement on taking hostages. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #39

So, if I'm reading you right, dware Jan 2020 #57

No, they had NO right to detain them. They were inside the US Embassy. Why do you think... George II Jan 2020 #14

Just like we had no right to assassinate their democratic leader and Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #18

No. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #17

Generally, I think really old stuff like this doesn't hurt a candidate...but this I am not sure. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #6

It's a pre-packaged ad for the GOP. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #7

They probably have a video with him saying the hostages CIA... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #19

I used to somewhat discount the talk about GOP oppo research on Sanders. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #22

Yes it was far fetched. A whole embassy staff of CIA agents? All 52 were CIA agents? That siege... George II Jan 2020 #13

Isnt that literally how bay of pigs happened? Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #15

You will never win that argument...sure there were CIA operatives in there...but not all and no Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #20

We overthrew their democracy. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #21

Good luck selling "we had it coming" to the voters. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #28

Let's give honesty a shot Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #30

Honesty would be acknowledging that Sanders was wrong. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #36

No. Honesty would be admitting we are wrong about our foreign policy. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #37

My newest slogan for the Sanders campaign, riffing off of Senator Warren: OilemFirchen Jan 2020 #48

We overthrew their democracy in 1953 -- this was 1979 karynnj Jan 2020 #41

That's not even FIGURATIVELY how Bay of Pigs "happened". OilemFirchen Jan 2020 #32

Do tell Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #40

Did we attempt to invade Iran? OilemFirchen Jan 2020 #42

That wasnt the question Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #43

We didn't have an embassy in Cuba at the time. OilemFirchen Jan 2020 #45

Yeah no you're right. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #46

It would be naive to believe that was their motivation. OilemFirchen Jan 2020 #47

That a very traumatic time for America and Americans... Kahuna7 Jan 2020 #50

Nothing justifies his stance of hostage taking!! Terrible Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #3

I read that yesterday but was hesitant to post it here. Thanks for doing so. George II Jan 2020 #5

Same here. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #10

KR! Cha Jan 2020 #9

Ronald Radosh melman Jan 2020 #27

K&R! nt TexasTowelie Jan 2020 #29

And Bernie had the nerve to say that Biden had a lot of baggage that would follow him in the GE... Skya Rhen Jan 2020 #31

There would be no way around this. nt Kahuna7 Jan 2020 #51

Pretty much anything the CIA did Turbineguy Jan 2020 #34

No no no. He's a DEMOCRATIC Socialist...nt SidDithers Jan 2020 #44

This must be repeated from the OP NYMinute Jan 2020 #49

The difference is Sanders tells the truth about his past votes janterry Jan 2020 #53

did he tell the truth about his conversation with liz? getagrip_already Jan 2020 #54

I think he is willing to talk about it janterry Jan 2020 #55