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Blue_true

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47. The other US Senator and the Congressman petitioned for the money.

Fri Jan 17, 2020, 07:07 PM

Jan 2020

from the federal government. Senator Sanders didn't join them.

With no money coming from the Feds, Shumlin tried other routes, including a tax, all that dragged down his once sky high favorability.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Former Vermont (Democratic) Governor: Sanders 'will play dirty' [View all] highplainsdem Jan 2020 OP

Shumlin is a true progressive. I am glad to see his insight. nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #1

I used the Google search feature here to check for previous DU threads mentioning Shumlin, and there highplainsdem Jan 2020 #4

Senator Sanders left Shumlin high and dry when Shumlin tried to get Single Payer for Vermont. Blue_true Jan 2020 #7

Hummmmm??!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #11

That was a state issue. U.S senators don't make state laws. jg10003 Jan 2020 #17

But that doesn't reflect very kindly on his commitment to single payer. Even if it was a "state catbyte Jan 2020 #19

What exactly could he have done? Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #31

Help the other two people in national government secure around a billion dollars. Blue_true Jan 2020 #42

Can you explain? Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #45

The other US Senator and the Congressman petitioned for the money. Blue_true Jan 2020 #47

I imagine federal funds would not have been approved Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #48

The other two people and Shumlin saw differently. Blue_true Jan 2020 #49

Exactly. His whole revolution is based on getting R B Garr Jan 2020 #33

Vermont needed around a billion dollars, Bernie offered nothing. Blue_true Jan 2020 #41

Shumlin needed money from the federal government, Bernie offered no help. Blue_true Jan 2020 #40

You are correct, they don't make state laws. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #55

Wait a minute notinkansas Jan 2020 #26

Actually the state does have the right numbers to lead off as a test case. Blue_true Jan 2020 #44

The population is large enough. It failed because the legislators knew they'd Hoyt Jan 2020 #52

If a small state like Vermont got a reasonable amount of federal money, Blue_true Jan 2020 #59

Just what we needed, Senators fighting over how much money they can get Hoyt Jan 2020 #60

One unfortunate reality is that better educated, wealthier states are also Blue_true Jan 2020 #62

The past few days I keep hearing only 30% of population has a college degree. Hoyt Jan 2020 #63

Just changing it by 10% would mean republican officeholders would be extinct Blue_true Jan 2020 #79

True. greatauntoftriplets Jan 2020 #56

Not surprised.. Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #2

"will..."? lol nt msongs Jan 2020 #3

K&R betsuni Jan 2020 #5

True. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #6

We've witnessed a lot of this with our own eyes NYMinute Jan 2020 #8

K and R! Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #9

LOL awesomerwb1 Jan 2020 #16

Ooh, ouch! PatSeg Jan 2020 #10

right handmade34 Jan 2020 #12

Sanders supporters on Twitter are already busy trashing Shumlin. highplainsdem Jan 2020 #13

You want a Vermont centralist? Mayor Sanders. If you read about his time Bummfuzzle Jan 2020 #22

Centralist? notinkansas Jan 2020 #27

From what I read he was a good mayor. You ought to read up on it. Bummfuzzle Jan 2020 #29

Bernie was a good mayor handmade34 Jan 2020 #51

Hey! wryter2000 Jan 2020 #24

Yes, those flames are certainly being fanned. ehrnst Jan 2020 #36

We are fucking doomed...we cant beat D party BASHERS and the KGB both... Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #78

This is now the second round with this nastiness. R B Garr Jan 2020 #14

Shumlin aside, I can't believe their Dean hate in your Post #13 oasis Jan 2020 #15

KR! TY hpd! Cha Jan 2020 #18

Damn right and he already is! Wawannabe Jan 2020 #20

K & R SunSeeker Jan 2020 #21

Sounds like the perfect candidate to take on tRump & the fascists. nt yaesu Jan 2020 #23

Trump will squish him in a NY Minute nt NYMinute Jan 2020 #53

Just wow wryter2000 Jan 2020 #25

The stronger Bernie gets NJCher Jan 2020 #28

Yes, that's always why any Democrat criticizes Bernie. ehrnst Jan 2020 #35

no more free lessons for you, ehrnst NJCher Jan 2020 #37

It is called vetting Gothmog Jan 2020 #38

You mean you want him treated with kid gloves all the time? NYMinute Jan 2020 #54

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #30

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #32

Someone who knows. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2020 #34

That doesn't make any sense. EW brought up scipan Jan 2020 #39

Where's the part where he plays dirty? Read through articles and not seeing it. Opinion? Again? What floppyboo Jan 2020 #43

"...they will play dirty..." myohmy2 Jan 2020 #46

...And yet Bernie continues to offer the olive branch to the GOP... ehrnst Jan 2020 #50

keep it up... myohmy2 Jan 2020 #57

And here comes the projection.... MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #68

...I was about to say the same thing to you.... ehrnst Jan 2020 #74

I've seen passionate Bernie - he will fight any which way! floppyboo Jan 2020 #58

Yes, I've seen that Bernie too. ehrnst Jan 2020 #64

....Such a wish.... ehrnst Jan 2020 #65

...."Play dirty enough" You mean like this?.... ehrnst Jan 2020 #70

....play dirty like this?.... ehrnst Jan 2020 #80

I believe the Governor over sanders Gothmog Jan 2020 #61

They are purists who will play dirty booley Jan 2020 #66

Weirdly, Shumlin provides no examples of "playing dirty" aikoaiko Jan 2020 #67

Yet you have no problem with a campaign headed by a Jill Stein endorser and voter. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #69

Not a problem if they are working for the right team now. aikoaiko Jan 2020 #71

That's a pretty big if. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #73

Can you define "Democratic loyalists?" ehrnst Jan 2020 #75

Didn't think so... ehrnst Jan 2020 #81

Oh Sorry. I thought you might have looked it up yourself. aikoaiko Jan 2020 #82

Nice try at an evasion... ehrnst Jan 2020 #83

I've given you enough. And I wasn't criticizing, I was describing. aikoaiko Jan 2020 #84

So you have nothing but another evasion? Not surprised. ehrnst Jan 2020 #85

Based on 2016 and recent BlueMTexpat Jan 2020 #72

Yep. empedocles Jan 2020 #77

Bernie keeps evertonfc Jan 2020 #76

K! Cha Jan 2020 #86