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WhiskeyGrinder

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12. It doesn't have to be sexual to make someone uncomfortable.

Sat Mar 30, 2019, 10:59 AM

Mar 2019

It's a well-known fact that many people don't like to be touched, for a wide variety of reasons. You say it does not bother you, yet you know it bothers other people and creeps them out.

Expecting people to respect others by not touching them affectionately without consent is not expecting them to be perfect. No one is asking Biden to "step down" -- he holds no office. But with the greater awareness around interpersonal relationships -- especially those between colleagues -- his behavior needs a reckoning.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Joe Biden.. I have looked at the articles and pictures of Biden hugging people! [View all] Peacetrain Mar 2019 OP

Touching someone on the shoulder is not "inappropriate." vlyons Mar 2019 #1

I agree. we can do it Mar 2019 #2

But "if she felt uncomfortable, she should have said something" Merlot Mar 2019 #27

I completely disagree vlyons Mar 2019 #56

Well of course she could say that. She could risk alienating the VP. Merlot Mar 2019 #70

What makes you assume that he would be "alienated?" vlyons Mar 2019 #76

Exactly. He has this power over her because people like YOU might conclude pnwmom Mar 2019 #78

Not even a second. LakeArenal Mar 2019 #75

You don't sound like someone who has ever been in a position like that. pnwmom Mar 2019 #77

Of course it appears here. LakeArenal Mar 2019 #72

Good Post!! Peacetrain Mar 2019 #74

I agree. liberalmuse Mar 2019 #53

He did not just touch her on the shoulder. Tipperary Mar 2019 #82

If you believe her. I don't. LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #83

So there's a picture of Cha Mar 2019 #3

No no Cha.. of Biden hugging people Peacetrain Mar 2019 #5

Mahalo, Peacetrain!.. I just read this.. seems Cha Mar 2019 #9

Oh yeah... that is exactly my feelings too.. Peacetrain Mar 2019 #10

Hug and a peck! Cha Mar 2019 #11

Hi Cha, DURHAM D Mar 2019 #7

They are there but how many of them have been edited to look the worst? GemDigger Mar 2019 #13

And its only going to get worse with the advent of "Deepfakes" coming on the scene. oldsoftie Mar 2019 #31

Exactly that! GemDigger Mar 2019 #39

K&R stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #4

There's an easy solution to not nominating someone with a history of making women uncomfortable. Bleacher Creature Mar 2019 #6

Actually my second choice is Elizabeth Warren.. Peacetrain Mar 2019 #8

I like EW. but she is not going to win a general. We need three states to Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #16

I predict you'll catch hell for this statement, but i totally agree with you. oldsoftie Mar 2019 #33

Yeah I will and thanks. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #34

Didn't 18 show that women can win lots of elections? Kurt V. Mar 2019 #38

In congressional districts. That is not statewide... so no. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #42

No Bernie supporters will not get away with this. Biden also supported her Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #14

Do you think any woman can get Elected? I have doubts and not sure it is Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #17

can you imagine a more vulnerable opponent than a president openly conspiring against America? bigtree Mar 2019 #24

You think of it as a patriot does so do I...but I think he Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #44

or a gay man! lolol Celerity Mar 2019 #20

Absolutely!!! Bleacher Creature Mar 2019 #45

Each of which already has right wing attacks treestar Mar 2019 #81

It doesn't have to be sexual to make someone uncomfortable. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #12

Yes it does. And I have seen Biden work a room fist hand and I say this Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #15

When you say "this shit," do you mean women talking about their lived experiences about men WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #18

She is a Sanders supporter and this is the same old same old. We need to put a stop to this, Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #21

Do you not believe her story simply because of who she has supported in the past? Do you not WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #26

That is correct and her story sucks too...sounds made up to me. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #30

Thanks for sticking with my questions. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #36

If I failed to make my point- let me point out how often this has been used Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #40

No, I get it, and we disagree. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #48

Fair enough! Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #59

k&R! MelissaB Mar 2019 #19

That only works in a primary if people allow the GOP to screw with us...not Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #23

Trump cannot mention ANYTHING Biden has done, because Trump has done SO MUCH worse. oldsoftie Mar 2019 #35

Exactly. This is a Sanders supporter trying to get rid of Biden. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #37

Make you a deal: Bring Franken back and Joe can run! robbedvoter Mar 2019 #22

Franken didn't resign because of Gillibrand ... Franken resigned because of Franken SFnomad Mar 2019 #25

Even if you think... tonedevil Mar 2019 #54

Re: Unfortunately for Senator Gillibrand she is the only one who is remembered for it. SFnomad Mar 2019 #57

There are several Senators... tonedevil Mar 2019 #60

Excuses, excuses, excuses ... SFnomad Mar 2019 #63

You don't think it is significant... tonedevil Mar 2019 #64

Do you think the others should be asked? SFnomad Mar 2019 #65

I would have thought it obvious... tonedevil Mar 2019 #67

This has legs with republicans Luvapottamus Mar 2019 #28

Let them try...with rapist Trump. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #32

Has legs only because that's what they'll need to run away from the pussy grabber Jarqui Mar 2019 #47

My thoughts are very similar ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #79

There are YouTube videos of Biden LibDemAlways Mar 2019 #29

Esp. up against the Trump team. They will make it out to be a huge stain on Biden and the press CTyankee Mar 2019 #46

This is a fair point... at least worth considering. Perhaps, it's better to go with someone safe. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #51

There IS a difference!!! aeromanKC Mar 2019 #41

There is enough proof throughout this site to vindicate Joe Biden from democratisphere Mar 2019 #43

Joe is just a very friendly, affectionate guy IndianaDave Mar 2019 #71

Have at it... I know at least Bernie can stand up to that kind of scrutiny. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #49

Biden does that all the time. liberalmuse Mar 2019 #50

I don't believe it either but, like Franken, there will be a shitstorm and we'll stand the chance of CTyankee Mar 2019 #52

Longtime Clinton advisor Nick Merrill responds to Buttigieg's criticism of Hillary Clinton Mario Luigi Mar 2019 #55

if the polls show Biden can beat trump, then it's Biden for me. trump raped his own wife. EveHammond13 Mar 2019 #58

And touches his own daughter Mario Luigi Mar 2019 #61

And wanted to abort the other Otto Lidenbrock Apr 2019 #84

This is completely meaninless Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #62

I wonder if Obama will file a formal complaint? Is he "sniffing his hair" here? George II Mar 2019 #66

Someone saw Biden beating a certain candidate BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #68

Sadly I agree flamingdem Mar 2019 #69

I like people who call me hon. Oppaloopa Mar 2019 #73

Thank you Lazy Daisy Mar 2019 #80