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In reply to the discussion: In 1987, Sanders said JFK made him nauseous. [View all]Gothmog
(182,369 posts)43. Bernie Sanders' real problem isn't Elizabeth Warren. It's Donald Trump
In the real world, trump would destroy a weak candidate like sanders. It would be really sad to see trump destroy sanders and I agree that sanders chance of being the nominee or being elected is nil
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Nonetheless, Sanders faces serious obstacles to obtaining the Democratic presidential nomination. The gentle treatment he received in 2016 from the media and the Hillary Clinton campaign (which ran few negative television or media ads against him) means that many Democratic voters havent yet learned about the distinctly non-progressive positions he has taken on certain issues throughout his senatorial career.....
The chances of Sanders actually becoming president, however, are also close to nil. I say this because in 2016 I got a glimpse of the Republican partys opposition research book on Sanders, which was so massive it had to be transported on a cart. The Newsweek reporter Kurt Eichenwald, who got to see some of its contents, declared that it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn [Sanders] apart.
According to Eichenwald, the book includes damning material such as the fact that Sanders was on unemployment until his mid-30s, that he co-sponsored a bill to ship Vermonts nuclear waste to Texas where it would be dumped in a poor Hispanic community, that he honeymooned in the Soviet Union, and that he appeared at a 1985 rally in Nicaragua at which Sandinista supporters chanted Here, there / the Yankee will die. And then theres Sanders fictitious essay in which he described a woman enjoying being raped by three men
After the Trump campaign and Fox News got through weaponizing this research, the usual conservative charges against Sanders that his domestic program would cost nearly $100tn over the next decade, that he would ban individual health insurance, send taxes into the stratosphere, and sympathize with terrorists and leftwing regimes would seem almost benign. The Republican campaign against any Democratic presidential candidate is guaranteed to be ugly, but against Sanders it would be gruesome. The result most likely would be a Democratic wipeout on the scale of Labours under Jeremy Corbyn.
Thats why Sanders is the preferred Democratic nominee of Trump and his aides. It explains otherwise puzzling stories such as Trump coming to Sanders defense against Warrens no-female-president claim, saying sexism is not his deal. And while living in Washington has made me cynical in some ways, I would not be in the least surprised if conservative dollars are swelling the coffers of Our Revolution, Sanders dark-money Super Pac which doesnt have to disclose its donors.
The chances of Sanders actually becoming president, however, are also close to nil. I say this because in 2016 I got a glimpse of the Republican partys opposition research book on Sanders, which was so massive it had to be transported on a cart. The Newsweek reporter Kurt Eichenwald, who got to see some of its contents, declared that it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn [Sanders] apart.
According to Eichenwald, the book includes damning material such as the fact that Sanders was on unemployment until his mid-30s, that he co-sponsored a bill to ship Vermonts nuclear waste to Texas where it would be dumped in a poor Hispanic community, that he honeymooned in the Soviet Union, and that he appeared at a 1985 rally in Nicaragua at which Sandinista supporters chanted Here, there / the Yankee will die. And then theres Sanders fictitious essay in which he described a woman enjoying being raped by three men
After the Trump campaign and Fox News got through weaponizing this research, the usual conservative charges against Sanders that his domestic program would cost nearly $100tn over the next decade, that he would ban individual health insurance, send taxes into the stratosphere, and sympathize with terrorists and leftwing regimes would seem almost benign. The Republican campaign against any Democratic presidential candidate is guaranteed to be ugly, but against Sanders it would be gruesome. The result most likely would be a Democratic wipeout on the scale of Labours under Jeremy Corbyn.
Thats why Sanders is the preferred Democratic nominee of Trump and his aides. It explains otherwise puzzling stories such as Trump coming to Sanders defense against Warrens no-female-president claim, saying sexism is not his deal. And while living in Washington has made me cynical in some ways, I would not be in the least surprised if conservative dollars are swelling the coffers of Our Revolution, Sanders dark-money Super Pac which doesnt have to disclose its donors.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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trump would have a fun time painting sanders as the friend of our enemy and a hater of JFK
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#41
The Cuban Missile crisis could have been avoided. U.S.policy towards Cuba brought the missiles.
YOHABLO
Jan 2020
#48
Yes, we've all done our homework. Seems we are reading a different set of articles.
YOHABLO
Jan 2020
#49
I don't know, it sounds like he was disgusted by what was said in the debate rather than
mahina
Jan 2020
#4
Morales was in the process of stealing an election that was illegitimate in the first place.
The Valley Below
Jan 2020
#24
Well, well, well .. looky here! Shocking is right rita! How is this not a reason to vote no on Joe?
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2020
#52
I'll put Bernie's past up against Joe's ANY DAY! Its WAY past time Joe is vetted, as Bernie has been
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2020
#53
As disturbing as Sanders support for Fidel Castro--whose widespread abuses...
The Valley Below
Jan 2020
#33
So which do you think he believes? That JFK was an inspiriation or disgusted him?
ehrnst
Jan 2020
#42
ME TOO! Compare Bernie's mild statements to Joe's harsh words around the same time. OUCH!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jan 2020
#54