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In reply to the discussion: This Is What a Republican Attack on Bernie Sanders Would Look Like [View all]Gothmog
(181,261 posts)92. Bernie Sanders' real problem isn't Elizabeth Warren. It's Donald Trump
In the real world, trump would destroy a weak candidate like sanders. It would be really sad to see trump destroy sanders and I agree that sanders chance of being the nominee or being elected is nil
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Nonetheless, Sanders faces serious obstacles to obtaining the Democratic presidential nomination. The gentle treatment he received in 2016 from the media and the Hillary Clinton campaign (which ran few negative television or media ads against him) means that many Democratic voters havent yet learned about the distinctly non-progressive positions he has taken on certain issues throughout his senatorial career.....
The chances of Sanders actually becoming president, however, are also close to nil. I say this because in 2016 I got a glimpse of the Republican partys opposition research book on Sanders, which was so massive it had to be transported on a cart. The Newsweek reporter Kurt Eichenwald, who got to see some of its contents, declared that it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn [Sanders] apart.
According to Eichenwald, the book includes damning material such as the fact that Sanders was on unemployment until his mid-30s, that he co-sponsored a bill to ship Vermonts nuclear waste to Texas where it would be dumped in a poor Hispanic community, that he honeymooned in the Soviet Union, and that he appeared at a 1985 rally in Nicaragua at which Sandinista supporters chanted Here, there / the Yankee will die. And then theres Sanders fictitious essay in which he described a woman enjoying being raped by three men
After the Trump campaign and Fox News got through weaponizing this research, the usual conservative charges against Sanders that his domestic program would cost nearly $100tn over the next decade, that he would ban individual health insurance, send taxes into the stratosphere, and sympathize with terrorists and leftwing regimes would seem almost benign. The Republican campaign against any Democratic presidential candidate is guaranteed to be ugly, but against Sanders it would be gruesome. The result most likely would be a Democratic wipeout on the scale of Labours under Jeremy Corbyn.
Thats why Sanders is the preferred Democratic nominee of Trump and his aides. It explains otherwise puzzling stories such as Trump coming to Sanders defense against Warrens no-female-president claim, saying sexism is not his deal. And while living in Washington has made me cynical in some ways, I would not be in the least surprised if conservative dollars are swelling the coffers of Our Revolution, Sanders dark-money Super Pac which doesnt have to disclose its donors.
The chances of Sanders actually becoming president, however, are also close to nil. I say this because in 2016 I got a glimpse of the Republican partys opposition research book on Sanders, which was so massive it had to be transported on a cart. The Newsweek reporter Kurt Eichenwald, who got to see some of its contents, declared that it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn [Sanders] apart.
According to Eichenwald, the book includes damning material such as the fact that Sanders was on unemployment until his mid-30s, that he co-sponsored a bill to ship Vermonts nuclear waste to Texas where it would be dumped in a poor Hispanic community, that he honeymooned in the Soviet Union, and that he appeared at a 1985 rally in Nicaragua at which Sandinista supporters chanted Here, there / the Yankee will die. And then theres Sanders fictitious essay in which he described a woman enjoying being raped by three men
After the Trump campaign and Fox News got through weaponizing this research, the usual conservative charges against Sanders that his domestic program would cost nearly $100tn over the next decade, that he would ban individual health insurance, send taxes into the stratosphere, and sympathize with terrorists and leftwing regimes would seem almost benign. The Republican campaign against any Democratic presidential candidate is guaranteed to be ugly, but against Sanders it would be gruesome. The result most likely would be a Democratic wipeout on the scale of Labours under Jeremy Corbyn.
Thats why Sanders is the preferred Democratic nominee of Trump and his aides. It explains otherwise puzzling stories such as Trump coming to Sanders defense against Warrens no-female-president claim, saying sexism is not his deal. And while living in Washington has made me cynical in some ways, I would not be in the least surprised if conservative dollars are swelling the coffers of Our Revolution, Sanders dark-money Super Pac which doesnt have to disclose its donors.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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My point: Don't let the Republicans "re-brand" Sanders as a Socialist when his policies
no_hypocrisy
Jan 2020
#5
They don't HAVE to "re-brand" Sanders; he's a self-acknowledged Socialist...
brooklynite
Jan 2020
#9
The facts are that the socialists of FDRs time attacked him as a plutocrat
The Valley Below
Jan 2020
#66
He denied it because it was the truth. FDR understood full well the nature of socialism.
The Valley Below
Jan 2020
#68
FDR was branded a Socialist and said he wasn't...Sanders is branded a Socialist and say he is
brooklynite
Jan 2020
#46
The only people who claim that "Democratic Socialism" means something different from "Socialism"...
brooklynite
Jan 2020
#37
In 2016, my wife and I went to a Sanders rally and agreed with all of his policies...
brooklynite
Jan 2020
#48
BS supporters seem to have and oft mentioned resemblance to diehard rw trumpers.
empedocles
Jan 2020
#28
And FDR was a pro-capitalist, globalist, free-trader, who wanted the US to enter WWII.
The Valley Below
Jan 2020
#82
What's "funny" is people who are not remotely comparable to the great liberal Democratic
The Valley Below
Jan 2020
#86
Count on me not keeping silent when the legacy of the Democratic Party
The Valley Below
Jan 2020
#89
"Bernie now has the highest name recognition of any candidate..." Maybe not the highest, but...
George II
Jan 2020
#56
+1. Sick of the obsessive sniping. We would do far better w/adult discussion of the real issues.
JudyM
Jan 2020
#59
I have seen a ton of oppo on sanders and I think I know how trump would attack sanders
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#70
I try not to think about the convention, the lead up to it and the aftermath,
Blue_true
Jan 2020
#73