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ehrnst

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75. ... no amount of fudging is going to change this, either...

Sat Jan 18, 2020, 11:40 AM

Jan 2020

...In 1998 Sanders voted in favor of the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998, which said: "It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."...

....Later that same year, Sanders also backed a resolution that stated: "Congress reaffirms that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."...

...Sanders also voted for the 2001 Authorization Unilateral Military Force Against Terrorists (AUMF[), which pretty much allowed Bush to wage war wherever he wanted....

Authorization for Use of Military Force - Authorizes the President to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations, or persons.

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Joe Biden's Vote for War [View all] Voltaire2 Jan 2020 OP

Hillary Voted for The Iraq Invasion. It was an infection of the Senate at the time. Opel_Justwax Jan 2020 #1

Clinton was a first term jr senator Buzz cook Jan 2020 #11

I don't buy the Jr senator excuse. Opel_Justwax Jan 2020 #40

I don't buy your opinion. nt Buzz cook Jan 2020 #48

Neither do I... especially from someone as highly intelligent as Hillary. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #51

Neither do I sammythecat Jan 2020 #54

at the end of the day Hilarry voted YES fallout87 Jan 2020 #45

So your saying Buzz cook Jan 2020 #49

And that vote hurt her in 2016 Polybius Jan 2020 #44

Rep. Adam Schiff also voted in favor of the invasion of Iraq. nt oasis Jan 2020 #2

It wasn't a vote for war. This has been brought up a dozen times in the last few weeks.... George II Jan 2020 #3

Everyone at the time knew Bush would invade. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #4

No they (me) didn't, it's revisionist history to read the minds of "everyone". George II Jan 2020 #7

When every causus belli was a lie? Buzz cook Jan 2020 #20

Indeed!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #33

"Everyone" didn't know Hans Blix and UN inspectors would be tossed out oasis Jan 2020 #13

As importantly, before the vote Blix was NOT in Iraq karynnj Jan 2020 #24

yes we did all know it booley Jan 2020 #41

We here knew. If we knew, they knew. Those who voted for it voted for their own interests. nt Autumn Jan 2020 #15

Exactly sammythecat Jan 2020 #55

Bernie sure knew it!! We need a President with sound foreign policy judgment... InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #37

Odd then that Biden was scrambling to put together a more restrictive bill. Voltaire2 Jan 2020 #6

Because boomer_wv Jan 2020 #8

The authorization wouldn't have passed if enough senators had the guts to vote against it. Voltaire2 Jan 2020 #9

Easy to say 17 years later and with boomer_wv Jan 2020 #12

What's interesting is that this seems to be the only issue that people can bash Biden about.... George II Jan 2020 #26

Not really, there's always the Bankruptcy bill. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #52

1000+ it doesn't fit with a certain campaign wanting to say otherwise Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #34

He wanted a MORE restrictive bill, i.e., even more controls on bush's "authority"... George II Jan 2020 #16

He and others in both parties on the SFRC committee scrambled because they wanted a better resolutio karynnj Jan 2020 #25

Thanks, karynnj for bringing FACTS into the discussion. oasis Jan 2020 #47

It was an authorization that was dependent on diplomacy being used first. Blue_true Jan 2020 #19

obviously it wasn't dependent on that. Voltaire2 Jan 2020 #22

Obviously it was. But the terms of the bill were violated. NO ONE could anticipate that! George II Jan 2020 #27

GWB stated that he needed the resolution as leverage to get the UN to ehrnst Jan 2020 #76

Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #5

Senator Sanders voted for the money for the war. Without the money, there would be no war. nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #21

Yes, our troops would have had to have been withdrawn without that funding. It's like so many.... George II Jan 2020 #28

Why did Sanders vote to fund the war? delisen Jan 2020 #30

Yes he did vote for the appropriations... Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #35

Well, that's totally different because..... REASONS!!! (nt) ehrnst Jan 2020 #77

FFS stop, just stop Dream Girl Jan 2020 #10

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #14

Bingo The Valley Below Jan 2020 #39

It's Thursday, that article and bash on Biden hasn't been posted for a couple of days. It's overdue. George II Jan 2020 #17

Won't it be great when sanders goes home to VT!!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #36

+1 TexasTowelie Jan 2020 #23

where is the animosity.... quickesst Jan 2020 #18

None of them are running for president. Voltaire2 Jan 2020 #59

so.... quickesst Jan 2020 #68

No, but choosing who to vote requires, for me Voltaire2 Jan 2020 #70

after some light reading... quickesst Jan 2020 #73

Lol Loki Liesmith Jan 2020 #29

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #31

Same old, same old ? left-of-center2012 Jan 2020 #32

Yup!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #38

OMG, Biden was one of 77 senators including 29 Democrats who voted for that! That shows highplainsdem Jan 2020 #42

So what's that say? sammythecat Jan 2020 #58

So you're saying Joe Biden was stupid or would let people die just to keep his job? Alrighty then. zackymilly Jan 2020 #62

Yes. It was one or the other. sammythecat Jan 2020 #64

Biden wanted to remove Saddam years before the Iraq Invasion booley Jan 2020 #43

So did Sanders. Ever hear of the Iraq Liberation Act? still_one Jan 2020 #53

E Fucking Nuff of this shit we can do it Jan 2020 #46

I recall that my senator, Boxer, opposes this. David__77 Jan 2020 #50

"I trust Bush," was apparently also the mindset behind the 2001 vote for AUMF... ehrnst Jan 2020 #57

That's right. David__77 Jan 2020 #65

And Bernie, not so much. Voted with the "I trust Bush" mindset. ehrnst Jan 2020 #66

No one cares about this issue anymore except some devotees determined to hurt Democrats NYMinute Jan 2020 #56

Joe made a mistake, period the end. He acknowledged that and has worked tirelessly to end the war. lark Jan 2020 #60

Problem is he doesn't really acknowledge it. Voltaire2 Jan 2020 #61

That's where I disagree with him. lark Jan 2020 #63

As did Senator Sanders' 2001 vote for AUMF ehrnst Jan 2020 #67

"Joe Biden's Vote for War" myohmy2 Jan 2020 #69

... no amount of fudging is going to change this, either... ehrnst Jan 2020 #75

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #71

Your flamethrower is pointed in the wrong direction. nt cry baby Jan 2020 #72

Barbara Lee is someone who was right on this and the preceding war authorization. David__77 Jan 2020 #74