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In reply to the discussion: Trump's MAGA supporters and Twitter Bernie Bros have this ugly tactic in common [View all]progressoid
(53,350 posts)96. That bullshit is tiresome.
The same thing happened to Obama too - Democrats ended up voting for the Republican nominee. But we don't hear about them because Obama won.
Wapo said 12 % of Sanders supporters voted for Trump. Compare that with 2008 when 17 % of Clinton supporters voted for McCain.
Of course if Obama had lost in '08 we would likely have been blaming the Clinton supporters who defected. And that would be pointless as well.
A more important caveat, perhaps, is that other statistics suggest that this level of "defection" isn't all that out of the ordinary. Believing that all those Sanders voters somehow should have been expected to not vote for Trump may be to misunderstand how primary voters behave.
For example, Schaffner tells NPR that around 12 percent of Republican primary voters (including 34 percent of Ohio Gov. John Kasich voters and 11 percent of Florida Sen. Marco Rubio voters) ended up voting for Clinton. And according to one 2008 study, around 25 percent of Clinton primary voters in that election ended up voting for Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., in the general. (In addition, the data showed 13 percent of McCain primary voters ended up voting for Obama, and 9 percent of Obama voters ended up voting for McCain perhaps signaling something that swayed voters between primaries and the general election, or some amount of error in the data, or both.)
For whatever reasons, people switch their vote to their opposition. It's happened before and it will happen again.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Trump's MAGA supporters and Twitter Bernie Bros have this ugly tactic in common [View all]
lapucelle
Jan 2020
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Was it okay for sanders supporters to boo John Lewis, Elijah Cummings and Stacy Abrams ?
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#35
It's talking about the tactics of some of his supporters and many of his staffers....
George II
Jan 2020
#37
Yep...being a Bernie supporter and a twitter user I don't harass. I have however
airmid
Jan 2020
#73
I'm glad when anyone calls out the toxic predatory culture of some twitter users. N/T
lapucelle
Jan 2020
#5
There are indeed a great deal more similarities than are set forth in this article
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#148
Bardella is talking about a specific type of toxic twitter bully, not Sanders supporters
lapucelle
Jan 2020
#11
The column is about a twitter mob fueled by their own toxic culture, not Sanders supporters. N/T
lapucelle
Jan 2020
#31
Why does this remind me of Hillary saying some Trump supporters were deplorable
sweetloukillbot
Jan 2020
#89
When they don't support Democrats and helped drumpf win - what should they be called?
lark
Jan 2020
#22
If someone won't vote for Democrats, they are not our friend in the end and are part of the enemy.
lark
Jan 2020
#33
These people in these states didn't vote for the Democratic nominee in the general election.
lapucelle
Jan 2020
#45
it says 12 percent...which is less than the hc voters deflecting from obama
questionseverything
Jan 2020
#154
It's odd for me that the 4 people I know who fall into this category are Bernie sisses.
AllyCat
Jan 2020
#9
Bardella makes it clear that there is a difference between Sanders supporters in general
lapucelle
Jan 2020
#19
Anyone who engaged in bullying, intimidation, and "shaming" tactics during the 2016 general election
lapucelle
Jan 2020
#27
Hits the nail on the head. Candidate says my hands are clean, while surrogates and followers
Fla Dem
Jan 2020
#25
I saw the horrible conduct of sanders supporters up close at the national convention
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#30
Folk here at DU have polite tendencies to separate Bernie 'Bros', 'fans', key staffers,
empedocles
Jan 2020
#40
A candidate's vetted delegates to the national convention represent the candidate and campaign
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#47
"My way or highway and I'm entitled to it" --- My abusive ex-husband and tormentor....
NurseJackie
Jan 2020
#53
The funny/sad thing about all that is Bernie is betting on public opinion
BeyondGeography
Jan 2020
#50
I have questions about sanders voter revolution concept which was rejected by the NYT
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#60
As I understand, sanders cannot get his platform adopted without this revolution
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#72
This and so many others seem like PUTIN Manipulation, be it Brexit and Dem Fake fighting
Ragrum
Jan 2020
#55
I have a real fear that we are going to lose again because of Bernie and his followers.
Mickju
Jan 2020
#57
Again, this article is consistent with the conduct I saw at the National Convention
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#61
sanders and his supporters disrupted the national convention and caused a ton of problems
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#123
There's a lot of slagging of Kurt Bardella on this thread, and yes,
The Velveteen Ocelot
Jan 2020
#87
I dearly hope all the Bernie haters get in line and vote blue if he gets nominated.
Peregrine Took
Jan 2020
#91
Great piece. Spot on. I have witnessed this here and in real life many times
BannonsLiver
Jan 2020
#102
There's a difference between "fighting nice" and fair and out right lies made up to boost a campaign
Thekaspervote
Jan 2020
#113
This!! No democratic campaign or candidate should openly bash the Democratic Party
Thekaspervote
Jan 2020
#114
This is an example of what the Sanders campaign, not him directly, is engaged in. There is...
George II
Jan 2020
#116
I do wonder if racism isn't an element to their ferocity, as well as sexism.
58Sunliner
Jan 2020
#126
I wish the press wouldn't cover him at all. Of course, as we've seen here, ignoring him incurs...
Tarheel_Dem
Jan 2020
#155