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wyldwolf

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160. My recent bernie bro moment...

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 07:07 PM

Jan 2020

In a post on another forum, said Bernie bro was trying to build the case that a moderate can't win a general election, and used Al Gore, John Kerry, and Hillary Clinton as proof.

He shrugged off Gore and Clinton's popular vote wins. He shrugged off voter suppression, aid from a foreign government, and a one-off SCOTUS decision that he wasn't really aware of though he tried to fake it after I reminded him. He also shrugged off Barack Obama's two wins.

I asked why he chose 2000 as the starting point for his theory, and not election years prior. He didn't know why I was referencing that year. When I told him 2000 was the year Al Gore ran, he told me Gore wasn't the best candidate that year and that Howard Dean was.

Then in a stellar display of his political prowess, he told me Michael Dukakis lost to Reagan in 1984 and that the election of W. Bush was the first election that Republicans appealed to the racist south.

Right as I bailed from the conversation, he told me I need to check my facts.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Trump's MAGA supporters and Twitter Bernie Bros have this ugly tactic in common [View all] lapucelle Jan 2020 OP

I'm glad to see this problem being acknowledged. oldsoftie Jan 2020 #1

And Bardella is being attacked on twitter over it as we speak. N/T lapucelle Jan 2020 #2

That is hardly surprising since he very clearly KPN Jan 2020 #32

Well they are Bev54 Jan 2020 #67

Seen what time and time again here? KPN Jan 2020 #146

Bernie supporters Bev54 Jan 2020 #158

Which is the whole POINT oldsoftie Jan 2020 #98

I know, right? (nt) ehrnst Jan 2020 #143

With all respect to DU Sanders supporters, who seem to be decent, Blue_true Jan 2020 #141

Who is surprised by this?? Gothmog Jan 2020 #147

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #169

This false equivalency is bullshit JonLP24 Jan 2020 #7

sometimes you can't see handmade34 Jan 2020 #20

I opposed SB 1070, pushed Obama JonLP24 Jan 2020 #23

Bernie is my Senator handmade34 Jan 2020 #74

Very well said, thank you nt Tumbulu Jan 2020 #127

+1 K&R onetexan Jan 2020 #46

Was it okay for sanders supporters to boo John Lewis, Elijah Cummings and Stacy Abrams ? Gothmog Jan 2020 #35

It's talking about the tactics of some of his supporters and many of his staffers.... George II Jan 2020 #37

Exactly. Cha Jan 2020 #168

+1 myohmy2 Jan 2020 #41

You're not, but some are. cab67 Jan 2020 #54

Yep...being a Bernie supporter and a twitter user I don't harass. I have however airmid Jan 2020 #73

If you do what is described in the story, then yes, you are. oldsoftie Jan 2020 #99

Talking about actual, observable behavior is not "bullshit." ehrnst Jan 2020 #144

It was not about racism NYMinute Jan 2020 #153

There are way more similarities that go beyond the one in the article NYMinute Jan 2020 #3

I'm glad when anyone calls out the toxic predatory culture of some twitter users. N/T lapucelle Jan 2020 #5

Please present 7 with links. mikeysnot Jan 2020 #43

Links? NYMinute Jan 2020 #97

So you got nothing off the top of your head. mikeysnot Jan 2020 #110

My erudite opinion and analysis NYMinute Jan 2020 #111

swing and aaaaa mikeysnot Jan 2020 #171

There are indeed a great deal more similarities than are set forth in this article Gothmog Jan 2020 #148

This thread needs a kick! Cha Jan 2020 #159

When any candidate is actively employing surrogates Docreed2003 Jan 2020 #4

All candidates need to explicitly repudiate these tactics. lapucelle Jan 2020 #8

Agree completely Docreed2003 Jan 2020 #13

I think comparing us to Trump supporters is bullshit JonLP24 Jan 2020 #6

Bardella is talking about a specific type of toxic twitter bully, not Sanders supporters lapucelle Jan 2020 #11

I have very few deleted posts in my entire 8 years JonLP24 Jan 2020 #16

The column is about a twitter mob fueled by their own toxic culture, not Sanders supporters. N/T lapucelle Jan 2020 #31

Why does this remind me of Hillary saying some Trump supporters were deplorable sweetloukillbot Jan 2020 #89

Did you vote for Hillary? lark Jan 2020 #12

Yes I voted for Hillary Clinton JonLP24 Jan 2020 #14

When they don't support Democrats and helped drumpf win - what should they be called? lark Jan 2020 #22

I have a problem with Clinton staffers like Neera Tanden JonLP24 Jan 2020 #26

If someone won't vote for Democrats, they are not our friend in the end and are part of the enemy. lark Jan 2020 #33

Neera Tanden isn't a "Clinton staffer". She has no role at Onward Together lapucelle Jan 2020 #44

The fact that you bring up Neera Tanden is interesting. First.... George II Jan 2020 #108

I bring her up because she often criticizes the Sanders wing JonLP24 Jan 2020 #109

Too BAD.. I love Neera Tanden! Cha Jan 2020 #135

I really like Neera Tanden and agree with her Gothmog Jan 2020 #149

Wait. Some clarification please. Who specifically didn't vote for Clinton KPN Jan 2020 #39

Of course I don't know who voted for whom, except for their telling us. lark Jan 2020 #42

So you made a totally unsubstantiated statement of "fact". KPN Jan 2020 #64

It's been supported in many polls. lark Jan 2020 #66

That bullshit is tiresome. progressoid Jan 2020 #96

Yes, indeed it does get tiresome. lapucelle Jan 2020 #106

25 percent?! Shocking. progressoid Jan 2020 #120

Bernie Sanders Voters Helped Trump Win and Here's Proof lapucelle Jan 2020 #130

Sarandon did too squirecam Jan 2020 #69

These people in these states didn't vote for the Democratic nominee in the general election. lapucelle Jan 2020 #45

sanders supporters helped to elect trump Gothmog Jan 2020 #49

That's not what I was asking. But since you KPN Jan 2020 #68

Here you go. lapucelle Jan 2020 #80

Mahalo! Cha Jan 2020 #163

... lapucelle Jan 2020 #164

It's from the Cooperative Congressional Election Study. herding cats Jan 2020 #88

This is the best source of information on this topic Gothmog Jan 2020 #150

it says 12 percent...which is less than the hc voters deflecting from obama questionseverything Jan 2020 #154

Read the material posted Gothmog Jan 2020 #156

Here's a further link to the study. lapucelle Jan 2020 #105

what treads like this do is help tRump get reelected, sad, very sad. nt yaesu Jan 2020 #82

Sounds like he isn't talking about you. Do you call yourself a "Bernie Bro"? MH1 Jan 2020 #94

It's odd for me that the 4 people I know who fall into this category are Bernie sisses. AllyCat Jan 2020 #9

Bernie Bro has always been innaccurate JonLP24 Jan 2020 #10

I don't feel this is targeting anyone that supports Sanders. AllyCat Jan 2020 #17

Bardella makes it clear that there is a difference between Sanders supporters in general lapucelle Jan 2020 #19

It was started for a reason. Cha Jan 2020 #142

Also, both drank milk at early age. bluedigger Jan 2020 #15

The piece is not about Sanders supporters. lapucelle Jan 2020 #21

That is hyperbole and minimizes the crimes of real Trump supporters Farmer-Rick Jan 2020 #18

Anyone who engaged in bullying, intimidation, and "shaming" tactics during the 2016 general election lapucelle Jan 2020 #27

This, exactly. nt redqueen Jan 2020 #28

why is it OK to run down my candidate nearly every day on this forum? NJCher Jan 2020 #24

No one is running down your candidate. lapucelle Jan 2020 #29

Good question melman Jan 2020 #58

No one likes a scold? MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #71

that's your version NJCher Jan 2020 #112

The finger wagging trashing of my party isn't winning any many people over. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #118

let me break the news to you gently NJCher Jan 2020 #134

Let us break it to you.. you are Not "breaking" Cha Jan 2020 #136

Lol. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #145

That's right, MrsCoffee.. BS is getting "Vetted".. Cha Jan 2020 #138

I suggest that what you are doing, dissing my scipan Jan 2020 #140

Hits the nail on the head. Candidate says my hands are clean, while surrogates and followers Fla Dem Jan 2020 #25

And you summarized it perfectly. Beakybird Jan 2020 #34

This!! so now the candidate suffers in polls for that negativity. Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #79

+1 uponit7771 Jan 2020 #139

I saw the horrible conduct of sanders supporters up close at the national convention Gothmog Jan 2020 #30

Folk here at DU have polite tendencies to separate Bernie 'Bros', 'fans', key staffers, empedocles Jan 2020 #40

A candidate's vetted delegates to the national convention represent the candidate and campaign Gothmog Jan 2020 #47

My way or highway and I'm entitled to it NCProgressive Jan 2020 #36

"My way or highway and I'm entitled to it" --- My abusive ex-husband and tormentor.... NurseJackie Jan 2020 #53

What is sad is that the leaders and promoters of the "revolution" NCProgressive Jan 2020 #100

Kick mcar Jan 2020 #38

I see Bear Creek Jan 2020 #48

If you have experienced or seen systematic cyberbullying by lapucelle Jan 2020 #52

The funny/sad thing about all that is Bernie is betting on public opinion BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #50

Sanders himself attacks the Democratic party every chance he gets nt NCProgressive Jan 2020 #51

I have questions about sanders voter revolution concept which was rejected by the NYT Gothmog Jan 2020 #60

He said he'd be hopping on AF1 a lot for rallies BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #63

As I understand, sanders cannot get his platform adopted without this revolution Gothmog Jan 2020 #72

Why has sanders not us his voter revolution to rally support for impeachment Gothmog Jan 2020 #170

This and so many others seem like PUTIN Manipulation, be it Brexit and Dem Fake fighting Ragrum Jan 2020 #55

A better comparison is to Ron Paul's supporters. cab67 Jan 2020 #56

I have a real fear that we are going to lose again because of Bernie and his followers. Mickju Jan 2020 #57

Unted Together independent think Jan 2020 #92

Don't fall for it folks. This whole piece KPN Jan 2020 #59

Again, this article is consistent with the conduct I saw at the National Convention Gothmog Jan 2020 #61

So? Tell me about that conduct. How did it KPN Jan 2020 #70

sanders and his supporters disrupted the national convention and caused a ton of problems Gothmog Jan 2020 #123

Maybe Bernie hasn't "encouraged" the ugliness that his supporters display calimary Jan 2020 #62

Didn't this guy work for Steve Bannon at Breitbart? melman Jan 2020 #65

BOOM!!!! nt JoeOtterbein Jan 2020 #77

He's a Democrat now Skidmore Jan 2020 #93

Lol. He is what he wants to be when it benefits him. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #119

Sounds like you are referring to Sanders Skidmore Jan 2020 #121

I wonder if anyone noticed how Skidmore Jan 2020 #75

Kurt Bardella jalan48 Jan 2020 #76

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #78

The headline is the title of the article. N/T lapucelle Jan 2020 #83

"and silence criticism." keithbvadu2 Jan 2020 #81

ummmm.... RazBerryBeret Jan 2020 #84

You should contact the author with your evidence of systematic cyberbullying lapucelle Jan 2020 #90

All the problems flow from adopting the tactics of populism: The Valley Below Jan 2020 #85

Well, I see these Trump supporters often. They come out en masse PatrickforO Jan 2020 #86

There's a lot of slagging of Kurt Bardella on this thread, and yes, The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #87

I dearly hope all the Bernie haters get in line and vote blue if he gets nominated. Peregrine Took Jan 2020 #91

He won't. If he is, I will support him, as he is far better than Trump, MH1 Jan 2020 #95

I'm seeing this in real life. yardwork Jan 2020 #101

Great piece. Spot on. I have witnessed this here and in real life many times BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #102

So have i Gothmog Jan 2020 #166

so its ok to compare Bernie supporters LeftTurn3623 Jan 2020 #103

There's a difference between "fighting nice" and fair and out right lies made up to boost a campaign Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #113

He should hold a staff meeting and tell his top staffers about that. George II Jan 2020 #122

sanders top staff are the ones encouraging the problems Gothmog Jan 2020 #125

I thought re-litigaging 2016 was against DU rules. Grasswire2 Jan 2020 #104

This needed to be said Hav Jan 2020 #107

This!! No democratic campaign or candidate should openly bash the Democratic Party Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #114

Bardella was on Morning Joe today discussing the R B Garr Jan 2020 #115

This is an example of what the Sanders campaign, not him directly, is engaged in. There is... George II Jan 2020 #116

Zephyr Teachout should be ashamed. N/T lapucelle Jan 2020 #117

sanders internal polling must be really bad for sanders to pull this stunt Gothmog Jan 2020 #124

I do wonder if racism isn't an element to their ferocity, as well as sexism. 58Sunliner Jan 2020 #126

Agree completely. Hardcore Bernie Bros have much in common Still In Wisconsin Jan 2020 #128

Last time around I was a member of the Bernie group on here. Turbineguy Jan 2020 #129

Twitter is more of a cesspool than facebook. redstatebluegirl Jan 2020 #131

I will check out twitter if there's a link, but I don't go on facebook. lapucelle Jan 2020 #133

K&R betsuni Jan 2020 #132

. melman Jan 2020 #137

Omg Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #151

Do you disagree with anything in the OP? NCProgressive Mar 2020 #172

Check the Twitter feed of any random "Bernie Bros" John Fante Jan 2020 #152

I wish the press wouldn't cover him at all. Of course, as we've seen here, ignoring him incurs... Tarheel_Dem Jan 2020 #155

Russians UCmeNdc Jan 2020 #157

My recent bernie bro moment... wyldwolf Jan 2020 #160

Sigh. So many similarities to the you know who's. BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #161

Kick Cha Jan 2020 #162

Hey Cha Gothmog Jan 2020 #165

a boot to da trut oasis Jan 2020 #167