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In reply to the discussion: Why would Hillary try to kneecap Bernie now? [View all]Autumn
(49,023 posts)56. An interesting article I found that points out some of her grievances against Bernie aren't quite
Clintons resentment of Bernie Sanders is not entirely unfounded. The Vermont senator did remain in the 2016 primary through the very end (of its first year, anyway), despite the fact that he had no plausible path to a delegate majority by early spring. Further, given how close the general election proved to be, it is conceivable that, had Bernie Sanders never entered the 2016 primary, Donald Trump would have never entered the Oval Office.
But then, one could plausibly say the same thing about Clinton. We cant know whether Bernie (or Martin OMalley) would have won. But we do know that Clinton ultimately proved to be the second-most-unpopular major-party nominee in American history. And we also know that Clinton pulled few punches and offered no timely surrender during her 2008 campaign against Barack Obama, which makes her complaints about Sanderss intransigence and attacks in 2016 more than a little hypocritical.
All this said, Clintons antipathy for Sanders is understandable. But the criticisms she levies in a new interview with The Hollywood Reporter range from misleading to mendacious. Her refusal to pledge her support for Sanders in a general election, meanwhile, would be shameful even if her critiques of the socialist senator were all indisputably true.
It is true that Bernie Sanders has been in Congress for years and that Jeff Merkley was the only senator to endorse him in the 2016 primary. But everything else Clinton says here is false. Eight members of Congress have endorsed the Vermont senator this cycle, including the co-chairs of the Congressional Progressive Caucus and three of the Houses most prominent first-term congresswomen. The fact that these lawmakers have rallied to Sanderss side despite the presence of another viable progressive candidate in the race suggests that they have a high-level of interest in working with him.
But then, one could plausibly say the same thing about Clinton. We cant know whether Bernie (or Martin OMalley) would have won. But we do know that Clinton ultimately proved to be the second-most-unpopular major-party nominee in American history. And we also know that Clinton pulled few punches and offered no timely surrender during her 2008 campaign against Barack Obama, which makes her complaints about Sanderss intransigence and attacks in 2016 more than a little hypocritical.
All this said, Clintons antipathy for Sanders is understandable. But the criticisms she levies in a new interview with The Hollywood Reporter range from misleading to mendacious. Her refusal to pledge her support for Sanders in a general election, meanwhile, would be shameful even if her critiques of the socialist senator were all indisputably true.
It is true that Bernie Sanders has been in Congress for years and that Jeff Merkley was the only senator to endorse him in the 2016 primary. But everything else Clinton says here is false. Eight members of Congress have endorsed the Vermont senator this cycle, including the co-chairs of the Congressional Progressive Caucus and three of the Houses most prominent first-term congresswomen. The fact that these lawmakers have rallied to Sanderss side despite the presence of another viable progressive candidate in the race suggests that they have a high-level of interest in working with him.
A lot more at the link.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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I am still struggling to see how sanders had any real chance of being the nominee
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#64
I think she feels like she has more direct knowledge of him than most, and
unitedwethrive
Jan 2020
#31
Sanders has publicly stated he is unsure if he will support the dem nominee
Thekaspervote
Jan 2020
#43
Yes she was the 2016 nominee. I agree with you on that. Watching any of Donald Trumps impeachment?
Autumn
Jan 2020
#29
You are right. She is wicked smart. She was the 2016 nominee. Trump won the electoral college. nt
Autumn
Jan 2020
#141
Yes, that video of him released the other day just doesn't support what Hillary said at all...
ehrnst
Jan 2020
#139
Just like she warned us about Russia's interference in 16 ...and didn't listen!!
Thekaspervote
Jan 2020
#50
I think that's a good, spot-on analysis (though I also disagree that this is 'kneecapping'). n/t
LisaM
Jan 2020
#24
Again: They are coworkers, staff and colleagues talking about incidents going back decades
ehrnst
Jan 2020
#118
Look you can't have it both ways. Either he's got the juice to withstand the hard knocks
underthematrix
Jan 2020
#27
I believe Hillary is afraid that Bernie will win the nomination and then beat Trump.
Uncle Joe
Jan 2020
#39
Probably because she thinks there are other candidates who would do a better job.
pnwmom
Jan 2020
#51
An interesting article I found that points out some of her grievances against Bernie aren't quite
Autumn
Jan 2020
#56
The misogyny drips from this post. I bet you don't even know how blatant you are.
Squinch
Jan 2020
#62
It's a well know fact that nobody likes Bernie over there. Now I'm not saying they dislike him but
UniteFightBack
Jan 2020
#65
Because, like all frontrunners, it's about time that he got seriously vetted - somebody had to do it
Skya Rhen
Jan 2020
#66
Clinton say she has grown worried that attacks from Sanders'campaign could hurt the future Democrats
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#70
Hillary Clinton is a real Democrat and is concerned about the party and defeating trump
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#76
Wishful thinking. Warren is fading I am sad to say as she is my second choice.
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#100
I think that this tweet was released for damage control..trying to make "disagreeable" into a virtue
ehrnst
Jan 2020
#119
...yes it's good that there are those looking out for the people concerning $$$ in politics....
ehrnst
Jan 2020
#145
..."Birther rage"...you mean like the kind Joe Rogan is known for promoting?...
ehrnst
Jan 2020
#164
Maybe she's trying to discourage voters from voting for the person Trump and his
Mike 03
Jan 2020
#134