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Demsrule86

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75. He is not a centrist period. He is a lifelong progressive and I for one am sick of some calling

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 12:57 AM

Jan 2020

people who don't agree with them on certain policies like MFA and free tuition (which really means policy that will make us lose elections) centrist which is an insult some came up with in order to divide our party. FDR was in office almost 100 years ago so his ideas are not only not new but ancient. Try winning some elections with the 'bold' message, and I don't mean taking blue seats...how about flipping some GOP seats? And quit lecturing fellow Democrats who may not agree with you on every piece of policy about how they are 'centrist' translated not 'real' Democrats . We want to win elections in order to save the country and the save planet. The AOC/ left won two seats in the midterm...two. Moderates won 39. I am more and more convinced Biden will be the nominee. And that is a good thing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Note to AOC: 39 of the 41 House seat pickups in '18 were moderates [View all] scheming daemons Jan 2020 OP

K&R LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #1

AOC should do the job she is elected to do NCProgressive Jan 2020 #2

Maybe Not For Long Me. Jan 2020 #10

I doubt it NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #25

+100. nt dware Jan 2020 #3

K&R highplainsdem Jan 2020 #4

Probably more like a 200 seat majority ... PBC_Democrat Jan 2020 #5

Why am I not surprised so many DUers are opposed to someone pulling the party leftward? LonePirate Jan 2020 #6

Besides the above mentioned..here's why Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #9

+1 LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #12

This is Democratic Underground, not Moderates Underground. Hard to know that from your post. LonePirate Jan 2020 #17

More than half of Democrats self-ID as moderate or conservative. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #20

Thekaspervote was not saying that you have to be a Moderate to be a Democrat... Sloumeau Jan 2020 #23

Thank you!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #79

You are very welcome. :) eom Sloumeau Jan 2020 #81

Moderate Democrats are Democrats. It is not Progressive Underground either. nt hack89 Jan 2020 #24

but the question was answered stopdiggin Jan 2020 #82

That is, unfortunately, true Bradical79 Jan 2020 #53

She's not going to pull the party leftward if she alienates everyone first. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #11

I say we just wander around in circles. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #13

That's boring The Mouth Jan 2020 #29

Good one. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #32

We're not; we're lifelong liberals who are opposed to being called "center-conservative" LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #14

If you hate being called center-conservative, then stop supporting those types of candidates. LonePirate Jan 2020 #16

Yeah, right: LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #18

Let me offer up a different source with a much greater distinction between them. LonePirate Jan 2020 #21

Political Compass doesn't apply very well to American politics. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #22

Beat me to it LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #33

They ran a true left pol in UK and now they have conservative rule...same is happening throughout Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #39

I know I am totally convinced by graphics with no source material. nt Gore1FL Jan 2020 #48

You're not familiar with ontheissues.org? Seriously? LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #59

And I am still not. Gore1FL Jan 2020 #60

Whatever LongtimeAZDem Jan 2020 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author TwilightZone Jan 2020 #19

Everyone right of sanders and warren squirecam Jan 2020 #28

left? or right? stopdiggin Jan 2020 #83

Right squirecam Jan 2020 #85

Joe Biden is not a centrist nor is he conservative. So you should seriously stop. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #38

Biden is indeed a centrist. And we live in a time needing bold, new solutions, not centrist ones. LonePirate Jan 2020 #41

He is not a centrist period. He is a lifelong progressive and I for one am sick of some calling Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #75

Maybe because Democrats are, as a group, more moderate than.... Happy Hoosier Jan 2020 #26

The place has changed a lot. redqueen Jan 2020 #30

Many have their own perception of what is moderate and liberal. LiberalFighter Jan 2020 #36

Perhaps some of use view winning elections as more important than pulling the party leftward in Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #37

Some of us view any candidate as being able to win instead of only candidates closest to the right. LonePirate Jan 2020 #40

The "Get Out we don't need you! and "How could you leave us, we needed you?" is in full force. Gore1FL Jan 2020 #44

LOL. Liberal Democrats are much further from the populist right than are those on the populist left, The Valley Below Jan 2020 #45

I have seen no evidence of that. Biden's views can be translated into policy...hers won't be. the Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #76

Easy. The Democratic Party is a liberal party and not a socialist party. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #43

It's more the 1970s GOP than it is liberal. Gore1FL Jan 2020 #46

Stop smearing the Democratic Party. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #47

I'm not. Gore1FL Jan 2020 #50

Baloney. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #51

I'd like to continue this mesmerizing line of argument. Gore1FL Jan 2020 #52

Let's hope. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #54

And pretending people are to score points is too. Gore1FL Jan 2020 #57

The part where you triple down on the smears of the Democratic Party. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #58

This whole "Bye" thing is really giving you trouble. Gore1FL Jan 2020 #61

Yet you keep responding to my posts. LOL. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #63

I've been a loyal Democrat since I first voted in 1984. Gore1FL Jan 2020 #64

And yet another slam on the party. 1984 was NOT the last time we had a candidate who ran against The Valley Below Jan 2020 #65

Really? Gore1FL Jan 2020 #66

Liberalism isn't measure by marginal tax rates, or The Valley Below Jan 2020 #67

So you don't have an example. Gore1FL Jan 2020 #69

I'm not playing your game. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #70

"my game" of backing up statements with links? I'm sorry you can't back up post 65. Gore1FL Jan 2020 #71

Your "game" seems to be attacking every Democrat since 1984 as Republicans. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #72

No. If you read my posts there was no attacking. Gore1FL Jan 2020 #73

Baloney. You keep saying that the Democratic Party "is more the 1970s GOP than it is liberal." The Valley Below Jan 2020 #74

I made the claim. I produced evidence. Gore1FL Jan 2020 #77

Stop accusing every Democrat since 1984 of being like Republicans. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #84

Perhaps you are too busy attacking me to read my posts or to document your assertions. Gore1FL Jan 2020 #86

You are the person who keeps comparing today's Democrats to Nixon-era Republicans and The Valley Below Jan 2020 #87

No. I said not one nominee since Mondale actively campaigned against Reaganomics. Gore1FL Jan 2020 #88

No, you said The Democratic Party is "more the 1970s GOP than it is liberal." The Valley Below Jan 2020 #89

The Democratic and Republican parties have both moved to the right in my lifetime. Gore1FL Jan 2020 #90

The Democratic party has NOT MOVED to the right. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #91

Please refrain from attacks and provide backup for your arguments. Gore1FL Jan 2020 #92

I don't know, why don't you tell us? BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #49

Here are links that support this idea in general... Sloumeau Jan 2020 #7

She is like BS it is all about her, nobody else matters. redstatebluegirl Jan 2020 #8

That's an outright lie Bradical79 Jan 2020 #56

Purity is all that matters to them madville Jan 2020 #15

Indeed!! Nose meet face... please don't bite me off!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #80

And while she rails about "billionaire" big donations to other candidates, she accepts them herself. George II Jan 2020 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author redqueen Jan 2020 #31

That's what I've been saying. Cha Jan 2020 #34

Which was one key point in the Speaker's careful decisions regarding impeachment. LiberalFighter Jan 2020 #35

Define moderate Gore1FL Jan 2020 #42

It's all relative to time and place. David__77 Jan 2020 #68

That's HER indictment of us: We should throw them all back, Hortensis Jan 2020 #55

That's how we dems win elections. Let's not deviate. demosincebirth Jan 2020 #78

Yeah, check it out. Cha Jan 2020 #93