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In reply to the discussion: Opinion: Democrats looked ready to unify. And then Hillary Clinton had to go and raise her hand [View all]booley
(3,855 posts)47. So let me help you with oen of those
That video wasn't doctored.
Biden has years of history saying he would cut Social Security and quite a bit of it has found itsef on video
But the video in question of Bidens 2018 remarks to the Brookings Institution think tank was not doctored by Sanders, whose campaign this month stepped up criticisms of Bidens record on Social Security.
Sanders campaign did say in a recent campaign email that Biden lauded Paul Ryan for proposing cuts to Social Security and Medicare which PolitiFact said Sanders campaign got wrong. But there is no evidence that the campaign altered any video.
Sanders campaign did say in a recent campaign email that Biden lauded Paul Ryan for proposing cuts to Social Security and Medicare which PolitiFact said Sanders campaign got wrong. But there is no evidence that the campaign altered any video.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/18/joe-biden-falsely-attacks-bernie-sanders-100811
This put into question his sincerity about f he means what he is saying now about Social Security, especially when Biden won't explain why he changed his mind right when he decided to run for President.
So that point is false.
For the other two, 3 counterpoints
1. Hillary still has influence (or at least thinks she does) on the democratic party. She has spoken to every candidate except Sanders. So it' willful obtuseness to act as if she is a nonentity here.
2 Why is Sanders responsible for Bernie of Bust people but somehow someone like Clinton is excluded? Makes the whole "Unity " thing from centrists appear as a sham just to shut up anyone who challenges their power.
Your third point is just false on both part. But that's is a longer conversation you clearly don't have any interest in having to see as to how you just assert it despite the facts. So I guess I won't' delve into it either.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Opinion: Democrats looked ready to unify. And then Hillary Clinton had to go and raise her hand [View all]
Autumn
Jan 2020
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Yeah that was noticeable. I was happy to see him and Liz arm in arm at the march and shaking hands.
Autumn
Jan 2020
#11
A few days ago polls had him ahead in Iowa and betting sites are still predicting him to win there
Quixote1818
Jan 2020
#19
This is a message board, this is news, it will be posted. That's how message boards work.
Autumn
Jan 2020
#15
And I suppose we must have TWO threads on each of the more nonsensical articles.
Squinch
Jan 2020
#28
Yeah, it happens. I notice some you have no complaints about so there's that. nt
Autumn
Jan 2020
#29
Ahh. So not only is it personal, but it's all about me, then? Ok. You go with that.
Squinch
Jan 2020
#43
Not about you at all. You only cross my mind when you respond to something I post, then
Autumn
Jan 2020
#44
That piece really downplays the divisiveness created by the Sanders campaign. That's been
highplainsdem
Jan 2020
#21
How impressed would you be by an apology and denial of responsibility from a rival who employed
highplainsdem
Jan 2020
#30
I don't know of anyone trashed by a former politician that has apologized to that person
Autumn
Jan 2020
#61
So, the answer is "no, Sanders has never apologized" for the divisive things he has said & done.
BuffaloJackalope
Jan 2020
#65
Since you don't get it. I'll clear it up for you. Sanders does not owe Clinton an apology.
Autumn
Jan 2020
#67
I am always interested in what Hillary Clinton has to say. I am very glad that she
comradebillyboy
Jan 2020
#62
I agree with Clinton, but the suggestion that she wouldn't support Bernie as nominee was a faux pas.
Beakybird
Jan 2020
#33
Sander has no reason to complain as his campaign has folks who didn't vote for the nominee in 16.
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#39
Clinton say she has grown worried that attacks fromSanders'campaign could hurt the future Democrats
Gothmog
Jan 2020
#35
She and Bill worked their hearts out for Obama in 08 and Bill did in 12...she couldn't as was SOS.
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#38
Bull. The electoral college gave Trump the presidency. He got the states that were considered the
Autumn
Jan 2020
#79
Yeah, sure. Ask yourself if his campaign-long attacks on the party and his late...
brush
Jan 2020
#80
Opinion...Sanders campaign has been lying about Biden...there was no unity...
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#37
Bernie has always taken the high road. Funny how these things always rise when he goes up in
Autumn
Jan 2020
#51
If by Autum you mean me, I'm not ready to unify. I'll do that when the primary is over. What I won't
Autumn
Jan 2020
#56
What the fuck was your unity pledge that Bernie signed stating that he was running as a Democrat
Autumn
Jan 2020
#57
Which in no way has anything to do with him being a Democrat. I will be fine when he goes back to
Autumn
Jan 2020
#59