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Demsrule86

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17. And this is Bloomberg no less. Gives credence to the idea that Bloomberg is running in order

Wed Jan 22, 2020, 07:54 PM

Jan 2020

to hit Trump with ads and begin the general early in a sense. And since he is a candidate, he doesn't have to deal with donor rules and regulations. He may not be trying to win the nomination. In fact, this could be considered playing defense for Biden. After all the Sanders and Warren Team crap here...maybe this is the real tag team.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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sanders is on record calling for Social Security cuts [View all] Gothmog Jan 2020 OP

LOL, oh dear R B Garr Jan 2020 #1

Raise The Cap DanieRains Jan 2020 #30

another lie azureblue Jan 2020 #38

I was able to capture this...because I can use the internet....So not a lie...right there in Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #78

Thank you Gothmog Jan 2020 #90

Except he then proposed increasing it... Big Chief Jan 2020 #109

He said the same as Biden. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #115

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #142

I saw that clip...only it was some years later. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #147

Then Why did the BS campaign, sirota et al say Cha Jan 2020 #149

BS campaign Accused Biden of the same damn thing with NO Evidence.. Cha Jan 2020 #190

NO.. according to those accusing Biden of doing.. BS Cha Jan 2020 #200

Good question. nt RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #114

Talk to the BS campaign.. they are the ones who started this "inconvenient fact".. Cha Jan 2020 #189

agreed Champion Jack Jan 2020 #202

From the Bloomberg article: OilemFirchen Jan 2020 #43

I Don't See A Quote From Bernie Just Paraphrasing DanieRains Jan 2020 #54

Ditto. On Thom Hartmann's program. Doitnow Jan 2020 #59

Pish posh. OilemFirchen Jan 2020 #70

Pish! Cha Feb 2020 #205

Exactly, you think he meant raise benefits to keep it solvent? Hal Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #116

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #125

You don't keep something solvent by raising benefits...nice try though. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #128

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #143

It was in the newspaper in Gothmog's post...he said it so...maybe you missed it? Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #146

This is BS - adjustments have and can be made by raising the income level at which money is taken bloom Jan 2020 #193

LOL Whooops BS camp is now scrambling for spin i'm sure onetexan Jan 2020 #47

Ouch!! Wellstone ruled Jan 2020 #2

Yes, it's gonna BERN! George II Jan 2020 #7

Would this be considered a Bern Notice??? Docreed2003 Jan 2020 #9

Learned decades ago Wellstone ruled Jan 2020 #23

Apparently he's promising pie-in-the-sky solutions to the young and stiffing retirees onetexan Jan 2020 #49

Yes, this is their Burn Notice. Cha Jan 2020 #191

As it SHOULD! Gift for America! Cha Jan 2020 #51

Oh that pesky internet...as aoc said earlier today "some campaign as if there is no internet." Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #3

LOL Scurrilous Jan 2020 #12

Indeed!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #34

How is that different from every other afternoon? comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #35

Ha!! It isn't Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #45

LOL Scurrilous Jan 2020 #57

Another self-inflicted wound. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #4

I am smiling Gothmog Jan 2020 #5

Me too! May I say thanks, thanks and thanks...K&R as well. You are a Goddess! Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #20

This makes me smile Gothmog Jan 2020 #25

Smiling ...and happy dance 💃 Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #36

Me too. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #68

I am smiling as I read it...haha Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #55

All you have to do is read the quote to know the headline is bullshit ... mr_lebowski Jan 2020 #56

It is a fine headline...don't see anything wrong with it... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #99

I explained why it's bullshit, so ... mr_lebowski Jan 2020 #101

You explained why you think it is Bullshit...I disagree... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #104

I did ... and I still see nothing I'd categorize as 'urging' ... and certainly not urging 'cuts' mr_lebowski Jan 2020 #105

"ya Dems?" nolawarlock Jan 2020 #107

DemsRule86 and I are ... familiar ... mr_lebowski Jan 2020 #187

speaking of self inflicted azureblue Jan 2020 #40

The BS campaign accused Joe Biden of Cha Jan 2020 #150

myohmy!!! George II Jan 2020 #6

yEs iNdeEd-Y lapucelle Jan 2020 #102

oooops NCProgressive Jan 2020 #8

Oooooooh DanieRains Jan 2020 #31

Ooooh yes!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #37

So much for forty years of fighting. Do you think they'll redo the attack ads? Scurrilous Jan 2020 #10

Doesn't the BS campaign know Cha Jan 2020 #21

I really hate it when people act like there's no internet, lol Docreed2003 Jan 2020 #11

yep Gothmog Jan 2020 #15

And this is Bloomberg no less. Gives credence to the idea that Bloomberg is running in order Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #17

As she said this morning...some campaign as if there were no internet...come again aoc??? Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #39

Ikr.. wth are they thinking?!!!!! Cha Jan 2020 #22

Heh! Scurrilous Jan 2020 #24

Same here... This is a lie, and here is the video proof. Big Chief Jan 2020 #111

*snort* (nt) Recursion Jan 2020 #112

. RandySF Jan 2020 #13

Oh boy NYMinute Jan 2020 #14

Yeah...can you say 'hypocrite'? Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #16

Oops! peggysue2 Jan 2020 #18

i was hoping you'd Cha Jan 2020 #19

Hey Cha Gothmog Jan 2020 #28

Ruh roh! EveHammond13 Jan 2020 #26

This all makes me mad. None of the major candidates are bluedye33139 Jan 2020 #27

I don't like anything about BS. Cha Jan 2020 #29

Nor do I.. great that he will not be the nominee!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #41

Agreed TwilightZone Jan 2020 #64

Yeah, So why did the BS campaign start this.. Cha Jan 2020 #67

You make a good observation. Blue_true Jan 2020 #86

Ugghhhh mac2766 Jan 2020 #32

Not at all...I am sure this must be very difficult...tsk tsk. Such a shame but you know...he didn't Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #72

Moving those goal posts... TiberiusB Jan 2020 #84

Sanders spoke of adjustments in revenue and BENEFITS. Blue_true Jan 2020 #87

It's the usual political game of semantics TiberiusB Jan 2020 #88

Being called a tax and spend democrat was something people avoided being called. Blue_true Jan 2020 #93

What will his staff say? mcar Jan 2020 #33

They will continue to try to lie, that is the only certainty. nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #95

Yep mcar Jan 2020 #96

The point is that Sanders team says "adjustment" is understood to mean cuts but they say that is not Gothmog Jan 2020 #42

Oh NO they don't! They're NOT fooling Cha Jan 2020 #46

Well well well... Kahuna7 Jan 2020 #44

K&R betsuni Jan 2020 #48

Bloomberg (News) digs up a gift for Biden:. and America! Cha Jan 2020 #50

Just another smear attempt, folks. Time for another donation to Bernie!! Doitnow Jan 2020 #52

Facts are facts. BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #58

You must get your facts from Fox. Let's all send another donation to Bernie. Doitnow Jan 2020 #62

No, I got mine from Bernie's mouth in this case. BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #65

Link? Doitnow Jan 2020 #123

LOL BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #124

Fox and Trump like Sanders. Read the texts. You know we have an internet. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #117

You told me this sort of thing would happen even before it happened. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #76

NO.. it's the SAME THING the BS campaign is Accusing Biden Cha Jan 2020 #63

'Money can't buy you love'... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #69

Here is an email that I just got from the Biden Campaign Gothmog Jan 2020 #53

the title line is not true gothmog. no where does the link say that. for shame. :( Kurt V. Jan 2020 #60

Context. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #73

thanks i didn't get that. biden has in fact, with nuances, called for cuts to ss. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #75

You are wrong Gothmog Jan 2020 #89

Fred Guttenberg.. "spin that anyway you want.. " Cha Jan 2020 #61

Ouch. calimary Jan 2020 #83

+1 betsuni Jan 2020 #113

to Fred Guttenberg.. Cha Jan 2020 #151

Why do I keep reading Democrats want to cut social security? Midnightwalk Jan 2020 #66

Falsly accusing his opponent of boomer_wv Jan 2020 #71

+10000 Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #74

well, while they are arguing who said what, when, tRump and the fascists are cutting SS. nt yaesu Jan 2020 #77

Yep. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #121

Ooops....Lucy you got some explaining to do. krakfiend Jan 2020 #79

Nope Sanders has some explaining to do...I picture and ad...with the Newspaper article Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #82

Again, thank you Gothmog Jan 2020 #92

No thank you! Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #98

Please copy the Newspaper article and add to your OP if you desire...to show all those who question Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #80

Thank you Gothmog Jan 2020 #94

I really appreciate your post...well done. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #97

AOC: "I don't understand why some folks run as if the internet doesn't exist." lol. wyldwolf Jan 2020 #81

Oooooohhhh, that's going to leave a mark. nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #85

Yes the internet does exist. Gothmog Jan 2020 #91

Pot calls the kettle black Wawannabe Jan 2020 #100

Vetting works. lapucelle Jan 2020 #103

It just keeps coming. And it is international? What the fuck? Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #118

K&R RandySF Jan 2020 #106

Bernie introduced a bill to increase Social Security around that time. Eric J in MN Jan 2020 #108

That was later. we were on our wsy to a successful midterm . Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #119

Lie. Instant fact check. Big Chief Jan 2020 #110

Year later...run up to the midterm. He said what Biden said...so if Biden meant cuts so did Sanders Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #120

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #144

Sanders said the same thing...and it is in the newspaper...but good luck with this because two can Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #145

Use of words matter, in both directions Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #122

If you read what was in the articles posted, he was looking for cuts of OTHER programs Scotch-Irish Jan 2020 #126

He said... 'benefits in the newspaper...so...you don't increase benefits to get solvency now do you Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #129

He also said revenues. Go Vols Jan 2020 #135

20 years later ...OK...doesn't change the fact he used the same words Biden used...so either Sanders Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #139

Weird becuase when they were tryign to do the "Grand Bargain there was Sanders protesting it booley Jan 2020 #127

Biden never cut social security nor did Sanders...but both gave lip service to solvency...and Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #130

Yep. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #132

That is how it is done...and Obama was a master. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #133

Yes he was. Totally outmaneuvered the GOP. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #136

And this time Sanders will be vetted as he should before the General. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #138

No one has pinned him down yet on the question of how he'll do it. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #140

Sander is good on a certain spiel...I don't see much ability to write legislation or plan to Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #148

There was never going to be a bargain...Obama effectively took it off the table with his poison Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #153

Both Sanders and Biden want to secure and protect Social Security. All of our candidates do. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #131

I know that and so does Sanders which is why the attacks against Biden are really wrong and are Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #134

K! Cha Jan 2020 #137

"Adjustments" could also mean raising the cap The Mouth Jan 2020 #141

He specifically mentioned benefits...I doubt either Sanders or Biden were serious...it is a game Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #152

OK, respectfully, point me to a different quote then The Mouth Jan 2020 #155

did you see gothmogs OP...the newspaper where Sanders say...'adjustments in benefits' Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #156

That article in the bottom right is showing his pleasure that we did NOT get cuts. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #154

You can not claim that adjustments mean one this is sanders says this word Gothmog Jan 2020 #157

Sanders never said adjustments are cuts Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #158

LOL Gothmog Jan 2020 #159

Do you have a video or transcript? Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #160

Denial is still not just a river in Africa Gothmog Jan 2020 #161

Genuinely I would like to see a direct quote or video of his saying that. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #163

It is in the OP...in he newspaper you will see his picture... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #164

LOL-Read the material posted -it is there Gothmog Jan 2020 #165

Nope. Nowhere in there does he say he supports cuts to social security. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #167

You are wrong Gothmog Jan 2020 #170

Are you comfortable with sanders poor judgment on staffing? Gothmog Jan 2020 #172

The media has called out and expose sanders lie Gothmog Jan 2020 #196

+1 betsuni Jan 2020 #198

Here... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #166

Again. He does not say he supports cuts. He said there needs to be adjustments to the system to keep Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #168

Yes he does Gothmog Jan 2020 #173

Nope. Saying so doesnt make it the case. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #175

You are wrong Gothmog Jan 2020 #176

So I've seen this before, but this tweet is not supported with any evidence Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #177

Denial is not just a river in Africa Gothmog Jan 2020 #178

The fact you are not providing evidence and only repeating a line is not doing wonders credibility Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #179

He said it right there in black and white...and why is your candidate cozying up with right wing Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #181

Provide a quote to me from the "black and white" Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #182

The evidence was provided Gothmog Jan 2020 #183

Because there is no evidence. I am the only one here that actually took a quote from the newspaper Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #184

No you are still completely wrong Gothmog Jan 2020 #185

You are still wrong Gothmog Jan 2020 #186

I am glad that AOC told us about the internet Gothmog Jan 2020 #195

K&R Tarheel_Dem Jan 2020 #162

... Scurrilous Jan 2020 #169

So, in yet another way BS parallels trump tactics. Amimnoch Jan 2020 #171

Exactly Gothmog Jan 2020 #174

+1 Cha Jan 2020 #197

I don't trust Biden. He might be saying one thing now but... YOHABLO Jan 2020 #180

I don't "trust" the BS campaign.. Cha Jan 2020 #188

I also do not trust sanders or his campaign staff Gothmog Jan 2020 #192

Kick for that. Cha Jan 2020 #194

Sanders' Social Security 'adjustments' undercut Biden attack Gothmog Jan 2020 #199

Yes, and he doesn't tell the truth when he accuses Joe of doing what he said he didn't do - but did! lark Jan 2020 #201

This is nuts. 33taw Jan 2020 #203

Great post. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #204