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namahage

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84. Women should be free to not take offense to touching

Sun Mar 31, 2019, 12:35 AM

Mar 2019

as much as they should be free to take offense to it.

That Ms. Flores seems to be insinuating that Mrs. Carter had been harassed but just didn't know it (probably because it wasn't "scrutinized" adequately) would seem to indicate an attempt to rob a woman of her agency--and whether this is politically motivated or not this is not a good look.

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Lucy Flores explains why she came forward with Biden complaint [View all] brooklynite Mar 2019 OP

'Carter's wife, Stephanie, later said she was not offended by the incident,' elleng Mar 2019 #1

You beat me to it elleng Peacetrain Mar 2019 #2

Glad we're together, Peacetrain. elleng Mar 2019 #5

The Carter story has been posted as "proof" of a pattern by several DUers. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #25

Yes elleng Mar 2019 #26

This will end up with the same debates that occurred during Al Franken I suspect, and doubt still_one Mar 2019 #27

Uncle Joe is a touchy-feely guy. He is not a lecher. secondwind Mar 2019 #76

Agreed. Joe Biden loves and respects his wife. I'm sorry OregonBlue Apr 2019 #110

Is this a joke? Politicub Mar 2019 #3

Getting more 'jokey' every day, it seems. elleng Mar 2019 #7

Flores is a tool BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #67

Yes she does and partisan. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #72

she is using other women to go after him JI7 Mar 2019 #4

+1,000,000 highplainsdem Mar 2019 #17

Please check your facts... Lucy Flores was one of the women who came forward InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #31

And she is on the board of our revolution. I think this will not end well Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #52

Wrong, wrong, wrong!! Lucy Flores is NOT on the board... sorry to disappoint you InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #99

She was and had a falling out with Turner. She was a surrogate in 16... Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #108

She is discredited and not credible BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #68

She was doing it for Bernie BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #96

Yeahh riiiight... Bernie's behind this!!! Gettin killed in the polls by Biden... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #100

The fact she did that snowybirdie Apr 2019 #104

What?!?! Can't believe you just said that... but, ooookayyy InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #106

As this continues to playout it seems more and more like a political hit Agschmid Mar 2019 #6

Yes elleng Mar 2019 #8

yup JI7 Mar 2019 #12

Yeah that's just odd. Agschmid Mar 2019 #13

Yes! This desperate move is unmistakeably a give away R B Garr Mar 2019 #22

That is what I am thinking.nt sheshe2 Mar 2019 #36

+1 nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #97

That is what made me skeptical of her when I saw her on Tapper yesterday. Tipperary Apr 2019 #112

No kidding! defacto7 Mar 2019 #15

I agree. highplainsdem Mar 2019 #20

A political hit? How so? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #32

I said it was my opinion. Agschmid Mar 2019 #35

That's okay. Many opinions have some factual foundation... just curious if you had one. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #38

I think the fact that he's 76 and hasn't been accused of anything (until now) says a lot. Agschmid Mar 2019 #40

Fair point... I hope that's right. I too haven't heard of any prior accusers. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #43

23 women accused Trump of sexual misconduct Jarqui Mar 2019 #61

With your two cents we have a whole damn dollar. Agschmid Mar 2019 #66

+1 ck4829 Mar 2019 #92

That doesn't really mean anything. BlueStater Mar 2019 #81

I think it grossly unfair for you to even bring Bill Cosby's name into this Thekaspervote Mar 2019 #87

It's not a perfect argument by any means, but it indicate there isn't a pattern. Agschmid Mar 2019 #88

Here is one from 2000... Agschmid Mar 2019 #89

And she is on the board of our revolution....hmmm Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #53

Exactly this. 100% ... nt BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #69

Yes. Tipperary Apr 2019 #111

Yes. Polly Hennessey Apr 2019 #113

Our Revolution EveHammond13 Mar 2019 #9

Sorry, Ms. Flores, the touchee determines the level of offense, not you. n/t Beartracks Mar 2019 #10

How is this in dispute?! What happened to the #MeToo movement? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #34

Lucy Flores is abusing the #metoo movement BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #70

That's quite the claim... any proof? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #74

This has nothing to do with the #metoo movement BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #98

Now I've heard EVERYTHING!! The conduct from the victim's perspective is now irrelevant... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #105

You've got to be kidding! What have we turned into! LAS14 Mar 2019 #11

And she says she was not offended so what business is it of lucy Flores.? Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #54

Women should be free to not take offense to touching namahage Mar 2019 #84

Flores knows best. Maybe she should start an advice column. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #93

Some do not like to be touched millions feel comfortable when touched delisen Mar 2019 #59

I agree! The idea of a world where you can't touch one another "without permission," is... LAS14 Mar 2019 #62

You said it clearly and concisely. delisen Mar 2019 #65

Well now aren't we lucky "The Central Scrutinizer" has spoken njhoneybadger Mar 2019 #14

Lots of real reasons why Biden shouldn't run. BlueStater Mar 2019 #16

Way too old? Why is Bernie running then? still_one Mar 2019 #29

That person doesn't support either of those candidates. Agschmid Mar 2019 #37

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Mar 2019 #39

I trust 2019 voters to make the right decision with the choices they have. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #41

I'm supporting Jay Inslee, who is 68. BlueStater Mar 2019 #49

Not buying this... Mike Nelson Mar 2019 #18

What are the odds that there are other women that were offended by this kind of behavior? RDANGELO Mar 2019 #19

What are the odds such women will be right wing or Sanders supporters? Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #55

All of them are not going to be right wingers or Sanders supporters if this was a habbit. RDANGELO Mar 2019 #73

A politician hugging someone is not sexual harassment . Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #75

If this is going to be an issue, it's better for it to come out now then the general election. RDANGELO Mar 2019 #77

Sirotaesqe,..hope it backfires. And with her friend denying her Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #78

Joe Biden is on my top 3 list and I am a Sanders supporter. CentralMass Mar 2019 #21

This is fair. He can apologize and make efforts to change his behavior. tymorial Mar 2019 #24

+1 CentralMass Mar 2019 #33

I'm surprised Joe hasn't already apologized for his behavior... or did I miss it? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #42

How about everybody just keep their hands to themselves unless invited or a request is granted? tymorial Mar 2019 #23

Unfortunately, politics doesn't always work that way. RDANGELO Mar 2019 #28

That's entirely possible tymorial Mar 2019 #30

Republicans have been trying to make this a "thing" for a while. It hasn't worked for them so far emulatorloo Mar 2019 #47

It would seem that the Republicans aren't the only ones. n/t namahage Mar 2019 #82

+1 11 Bravo Mar 2020 #115

Now THERE'S an idea!! Great suggestion!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #46

That's not a tirade, that's great advice. Thanks emulatorloo Mar 2019 #48

My other comments on this subject have been less than received well tymorial Mar 2019 #58

Ha ha of course! emulatorloo Mar 2019 #63

What if the person touching Flores was John F Kennedy katmondoo Mar 2019 #44

Can't believe you just said that... so, the toucher's looks should affect the degree InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #45

I knew the reaction to this would be negative but I wrote it anyway. katmondoo Mar 2019 #91

I respect your response... not everybody would admit what you said. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #94

What? Socal31 Mar 2019 #50

Response to Socal31 Peace06 Mar 2019 #80

Neck kisses vs pussy grabbing? Let's have that debate. Funtatlaguy Mar 2019 #51

Is this some new kind of stalking? delisen Mar 2019 #56

And a still photo may not be entirely revealing treestar Apr 2019 #101

When Joe was in town, I stayed after his speech to talk with him about issues. Frustratedlady Mar 2019 #57

Thank you for posting this. Your experience matches that described in an article from 2017 highplainsdem Mar 2019 #60

Has Flores explained what she did to stop the toxic predatory culture and sexual violence lapucelle Mar 2019 #64

Another poster just posted. an OP that says she knew about the Sanders.campaign Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #71

I am 100% in support of the #METOO movement quickesst Mar 2019 #79

Florez' "friend" does not back up her version.. Cha Mar 2019 #83

Here's a statement from Henry Munoz III who was at the event and looked into it Jarqui Mar 2019 #85

Munoz wasn't just at the event; he organized it. And notice that he says he reviewed all photos of highplainsdem Mar 2019 #86

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #90

She didn't give the real reason BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #95

+1 oasis Apr 2019 #107

Why do I think Flores is getting paid somehow? Botany Apr 2019 #102

Really? get the red out Apr 2019 #103

Just more Bernie BS. lark Apr 2019 #109

From the sponsor of the event Gothmog Apr 2019 #114