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highplainsdem

(62,176 posts)
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 11:19 AM Jan 2020

Sanders' student debt forgiveness plan could give 100x as much to future lawyers, execs and doctors [View all]

as it gives to the poorest students who might owe only small amounts.

That's because typical law school grads, as well as typical grads of the best business schools for MBAs, usually have more than $100,000 in student loans. Med school grads usually have over $200,000.

These are loans that weren't forced on anyone. They were taken out in the expectation that they wouldn't be that hard to pay off, given the high incomes those graduates can expect.

Forgiving those loans, as if these graduates need as much help as someone stuggling with student debt while working a minimum-wage job, is NOT socialism, or even any kind of social safety net.

This is an extremely regressive proposal.

Warren's plan is also regressive, as was pointed out in an analysis by an Obama Treasury Dept official now with Brookings:

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2019/04/24/how-progressive-is-senator-elizabeth-warrens-loan-forgiveness-proposal/


But the Sanders plan is much worse. Much more regressive.

And the attack ads write themselves.

Democrats are usually skeptical, if not sharply critical, of spending that primarily benefits people with higher incomes.

We shouldn't let concern about student debt blind us to how regressive these plans, especially the Sanders plan, really are.

It's important to help people who are genuinely struggling with student debt.

But people who took on hundreds of thousands in student debt in the expectation of making hundreds of thousands a year (if not more) in the future because of those degrees do NOT need to be bailed out.

Btw, this is a separate problem from funding public colleges, including community colleges, and bringing the costs for those down as far as possible to help students.

That's something that would help college students in general.

Forgiving $100,000+ in student loans for people who will likely make millions more than others with student debt is simply a bad use of money.

And God knows we have enough other needs for that money, from infrastructure to the environment.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Good jberryhill Jan 2020 #1
Doctors don't set the rates for their procedures Docreed2003 Jan 2020 #2
Most doctors don't have private practices and don't set their own prices. And I'm not aware of highplainsdem Jan 2020 #3
No. Prices are set by hospitals to offset unpaid bills and charity. See: Medicare for all. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #23
probably my greatest issue w bernie is his black and white thinking. mopinko Jan 2020 #4
Biden's plan would allow student debt to be discharged in bankruptcy. highplainsdem Jan 2020 #10
I can assure you that Med school loans are not "easy to pay off" Docreed2003 Jan 2020 #5
I agree with you about it being a good idea to forgive student loans for doctors if they'll "commit highplainsdem Jan 2020 #6
I think those are the types of reasonable steps that most can agree with Docreed2003 Jan 2020 #7
I agree.. has to be higher... Happy Hoosier Jan 2020 #11
So you want to help doctors 250% more than non doctors? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #26
Had a conversation with a Nephrology fellow ismnotwasm Jan 2020 #24
Loan forgiveness for the most educated and hopefully most successful bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #8
I agree. highplainsdem Jan 2020 #12
True, but lawyers especially all don't make big bucks jimfields33 Jan 2020 #28
I've said this from the beginning radical noodle Jan 2020 #9
Agreed squirecam Jan 2020 #14
This is the new "welfare queens" argument, straight from Fox and Friends. DanTex Jan 2020 #13
Complete BS. The analysis I link to in the OP is from Obama's Deputy Assistant Secretary of the highplainsdem Jan 2020 #16
I will say, at least Biden has been consistent with the welfare queens thing. DanTex Jan 2020 #17
I guess... radical noodle Jan 2020 #18
Yes, "welfare queens" are exactly that: wealthy people getting benefits. DanTex Jan 2020 #19
I honestly think we are dealing with the same people. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #27
Welfare queens were geared for racism radical noodle Jan 2020 #30
Thank you. I couldn't have said it better myself. totodeinhere Jan 2020 #20
It's weird watching people twist numbers dishonestly in order to attack progressive policies, right? DanTex Jan 2020 #21
We want to cut off our nose ot spite our face booley Jan 2020 #25
Agreed squirecam Jan 2020 #15
So poor people never work to become Doctors or lawyers? booley Jan 2020 #22
I'm talking about future income that education will almost guarantee, not their parents' wealth. highplainsdem Jan 2020 #31
I don't care what Bernie's so called plan says or doesn't say calguy Jan 2020 #29
Lots of law grads are struggling - some couldn't even find lawyer jobs at all democrattotheend Jan 2020 #32
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